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		<title>Save A Worker by Keeping Him Unemployed</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a portion of Kevin Drum&#8217;s argument against lowering the minimum wage to stimulate employment Is this really what we&#8217;ve come to? That we should provide a (probably very small) boost to the job market by allowing businesses to hire people for $9,500 per year instead of $14,500? Seriously? I mean, this is the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/07/no-lets-not-slash-minimum-wage">Here is a portion of Kevin Drum&#8217;s argument</a> against lowering the minimum wage to stimulate employment</p>
<blockquote><p>Is this really what we&#8217;ve come to? That we should provide a (probably very small) boost to the job market by allowing businesses to hire people for $9,500 per year instead of $14,500? Seriously? I mean, this is the ultimate safety net program, aimed squarely at working people at the very bottom of the income ladder. If we&#8217;re willing to throw them under the bus, who aren&#8217;t we willing to throw under the bus?</p></blockquote>
<p>Part of the problem is that Drum is absolutely convinced that our intuition (and, oh, 200 years of experience) that demand curves slope downward is flawed in the case of low-skill labor.  He has read the two studies out of a zillion that, contrary to all the others, suggests that minimum wage increases may not affect employment and has convinced himself that these are the last word in the science.    As an employer who has laid people off and made larger and larger investments in automation with each successive minimum wage increase, I will continue to trust my intuition that higher minimum wages makes hiring less desirable.</p>
<p>I will say, though, that there are a number of reasons why a change in the minimum wage may have a smaller overall effect nowadays than one might expect.  That is because the minimum wage vastly understates the cost of taking on an unskilled worker.  Even with a lower minimum wage, these government costs will remain:</p>
<ul>
<li>Soon, the employer will have to pay for the employees health care, a very expensive proposition</li>
<li>Workers comp and other labor taxes add as much as 20% to the cost of labor</li>
<li>In states like California, bad employees have an increasing number of avenues to prevent employers from firing them, from appeal to an ADA law stretched out of recognition to any number of other legal presumptions that employers have to just live with hiring mistakes</li>
</ul>
<p>Hiring employees used to be a joyous occasion.  Now I cringe and wonder what kind of liabilities I am taking on.</p>
<p>But back to Drum&#8217;s statement, how sick is it that allowing people off the dole to actually get a job is called &#8220;throwing them under the bus?&#8221;  Drum, for someone so fired up to make decisions based on academic work, sure is willing to put on blinders to all the academic work that actually characterizes who works for minimum wage and how long they stay on it.  He who argues against making policy based on flawed intuition is operating here entirely from a flawed perception of who minimum wage workers are.  He seems to want to picture families of eight supported for decades by someone trapped in the same minimum wage job, for whom a raise only comes when Congress grants it, but that is simply not the reality.</p>
<p>Just as one metric, for example, the percentage of all wage and salaried workers making minimum wage or less <a href="http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2008tbls.htm#10">fell from 8.8% in 1980 to 1.7% in 2008</a>.  In fact, the actual absolute number of people making the minimum wage fell by over 2/3 during these years.    I would argue that this number is probably too low.  A dynamic labor market needs to bring people in at the bottom, and raising the minimum wage makes this harder, and so traps people into unemployment.  In fact, the number of unemployed in this country is at least 6 times larger than the number of minimum wage workers.</p>
<p>If we dropped the minimum wage, only a fraction of the 2 million or so who make the minimum wage would see their wages go down, but lets assume a quarter of them would.  We are therefore trying to prop up wages for 500,000 but at the same time creating barriers for <a href="http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf">13.9 million people</a> who are unemployed and are looking for work.  And it is low-skilled workers who we are most particularly throwing under the bus by keeping minimum wages high.</p>
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		<title>Pray I Don&#8217;t Alter It Any Further</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So a bunch of bloggers agree to write for the HuffPo, a profit-seeking venture, for free.  The HuffPo gets bought by another profit-seeking company, though this one is less successful in shrouding its financial goals in a cloud of feel-good progressivism.  So the bloggers get mad.  But instead of just quitting, they are actually suing the HuffPo [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a bunch of bloggers agree to write for the HuffPo, a profit-seeking venture, for free.  The HuffPo gets bought by another profit-seeking company, though this one is less successful in shrouding its financial goals in a cloud of feel-good progressivism.  So the bloggers get mad.  But instead of just quitting, they are <a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2011/04/12/aol-arianna-huffington-hit-with-class-action-suit/">actually suing the HuffPo</a> for back wages under the Fair Labor Standards Act.</p>
<p>A few observations:</p>
<ul>
<li>I blog for free at Forbes.  It&#8217;s not like the arrangement was hard to figure out.  They get some free content, I get some exposure and a bit of cache from being associated with Forbes.   Seemed like a good deal to me.  When it ceases to be so, I will quit.</li>
<li>The fact that everyone agreed to the deal in advance and it was completed by both parties to their mutual self-interest is NOT a defense under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA).  I have employees who beg to work for free all the time (e.g. they have a disability arrangement that allows no outside income).  I have to tell them no.  Any defense from the HuffPo will come through convincing a court that the writers were somehow exempt or not actually employees.</li>
<li>This same problem arises with internships as well as in my work.  In short, people sometimes value non-monetary aspects of jobs that are not given any credit in the FLSA.  My son would love to have a good summer job and for the right one would work under minimum wage for the experience.   Even the experience of showing up on time, functioning in an organization, working in a hierarchy, etc.  are important skills those outside of the work force gain from obtaining.  (In an interesting parallel to this, probably the most important skill I am gaining at Forbes is simply writing to a regular weekly deadline.  It&#8217;s harder than it seems from the outside).</li>
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<p>In short, I would say that these folks are utterly without personal honor for filing the suit, but in the current state of labor law they potentially have a case.  How sad that would be.  And what would be next?  A class action suit by product reviewers at Amazon for back wages?</p>
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		<title>The Fair Labor Standards Act Restricts Employees, Not Just Employers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Earlier today I posted that: People often think of the minimum wage as a restriction on employers â€” that they cannot pay less than a certain number for a job.  But it is also equally a restriction on job seekers â€” my son cannot legally offer to take a job for less than $7.25, even [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2009/07/trying-to-find-a-job-as-a-teenager.html">Earlier today I posted that</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>People often think of the minimum wage as a restriction on employers â€” that they cannot pay less than a certain number for a job.  But it is also equally a restriction on job seekers â€” my son cannot legally offer to take a job for less than $7.25, even though he would probably gladly do so.  For teenagers, just gaining the experience of working and building basic skills (like showing up on time, following procedures, interacting with customers and fellow employees) has enormous value, such that even a nominal payment of a few dollars an hour would more than compensate him for his labor.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/07/lawprof-david-trubek-tries-to-fathom.html">Ann Althouse</a> has found the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), which contains the minimum wage, also can lead to restrictions on employee behavior:</p>
<blockquote><p>Everyone at The University of Wisconsin will have their pay cut by about 3% and will be â€œfurloughedâ€â€”told they do not have to workâ€”for a corresponding period of time. But it turns out that we not only donâ€™t have to work, we are being told we cannot work. The guidelines ban any kind of work during furloughs, anywhere. This means that even if you are at home you are not supposed to read professional material, get and send emails, make calls, use a smart phone, etc. Employees who violate the work ban can be disciplined.</p></blockquote>
<p>She goes on to describe her voyage of discovery as to why so irrational-sounding a policy might exist, but I alredy knew.  To furlough exempt (meaning exempt from hourly bookkeeping) workers, they must become non-exempt.  And non-exempt workers have to be paid for time worked, <strong>even if the time worked was not ordered by the employer and even if the time worked was against the wishes of the employer</strong>.</p>
<p>We face this situation all the time.  We have hourly workers in campgrounds.  Unlike in a factory (for which the FLSA was written and where there are fairly strict controls on how people work), my campground workers have a lot of leeway to set their own schedule and determine their work patterns.   But I have to set very clear guidelines &#8211; &#8220;at the end of the day you have to get x and y and z  done and you are not authorized to work more than t hours doing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>But we nearly always have folks who want to go do whatever they want to do.  I had an employee who loved to arrange river rocks around camp sites as borders after he had finished his other work.  His work looked really nice.  But I could not afford to pay him to arrange river rocks around camp sites.  His manager told him to stop.  He kept doing it.  You know what?  I still had to pay him for his time to arrange river rocks, despite the fact the company had specifically told him not to and despite the fact that this time exceeded the guidelines I gave him  (once his work exceeds X hours, he has to get management permission to work more in a certain time period).  In fact, the only way I eventually was able to stop paying him to arrange river rocks at work was to fire him.</p>
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		<title>Standing in the Way of Success</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Megan McArdle has a good post and excerpts from Adam Shepard, who set out with $25 to see how hard it was to escape from poverty. I won't re-quote that post here, you should see her site, but I wanted...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/making_it.php">Megan McArdle</a> has a good post and excerpts from Adam Shepard, who set out with $25 to see how hard it was to escape from poverty.&nbsp; I won&#8217;t re-quote that post here, you should see her site, but I wanted to comment on one thing Shepard says about his early days trying to convince supervisors they should hire a homeless guy:</p>
<blockquote><p>So, he gave me the secret. To paraphrase, he told me to go to these<br />
managers and tell them who you are, that you are the greatest worker on<br />
the planet and that it would be a mistake not to hire you. If they take<br />
you on, great. If not, move on down the line. By dayâ€™s end, youâ€™re<br />
gonna have a job.
</p>
<p>So I did. The next day, I went to see Curtis at Fast Company, a<br />
moving company where Iâ€™d already applied. â€œCurt!â€ I said. â€œIâ€™m Adam<br />
Shepard, and Iâ€™m the greatest mover on the planet. It would be a<br />
mistake for you not to hire me.â€ He looked at me across the table and<br />
smiled, knowing I was lying like hell to him. But he liked my attitude<br />
â€“ especially after I offered to work a day for free â€“ so he hired me on<br />
the spot.</p>
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<p>This is very normal &#8212; if you want someone to take a risk, you try to reduce the cost for him.&nbsp; Not sure you want to try our product?&nbsp; We&#8217;ll give you a free sample.&nbsp; In this case, he agreed to work for free to convince the manager he was a good worker.&nbsp; This makes sense &#8212; to emerge from homelessness and to get a job with no skills and no work history, one needs to be willing to give a bit of a discount on your labor, at least at first, to get someone to give you a chance.</p>
<p>But here is the interesting part &#8212; the arrangement Curtis and Adam Shepard made is ILLEGAL.&nbsp; The Fair Labor Standards Act, which includes Federal minimum wage law, does not allow Curtis to accept unpaid labor and does not even allow Mr. Shepard to offer it.&nbsp; The fact that the deal makes so much sense and it so clearly is in the mutual best interest of both parties is absolutely irrelevant under the law.&nbsp; Fast Company could be busted, should the DOL choose to focus its attention their way.</p>
<p>When people argue that the minimum wage is most harmful to the poor, because it prices the first rung of the labor ladder beyond what their minimal skills can justify, this is what they mean.</p>
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		<title>Recipients of Intellectual Welfare</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today, Kevin Drum quotes Obsidian Wings as saying: The men in my family of my father's generation returned home after serving their country and got jobs in the local steel mills, as had their fathers and their grandfathers. In exchange...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_05/006230.php">Kevin Drum quotes Obsidian Wings</a> as saying: </p>
<blockquote><p>The men in my family of my father&#8217;s generation returned home after serving<br />
their country and got jobs in the local steel mills, as had their fathers and<br />
their grandfathers. In exchange for their brawn, sweat, and expertise, the steel<br />
mills promised these men certain benefits. In exchange for Social Security taxes<br />
withheld from their already modest paychecks, the government promised these men<br />
certain benefits as well. </p>
<p>&#8230;.These were church-attending, flag-waving, football-loving, honest family<br />
men. They are rightfully proud of providing homes and educations for their<br />
children and instilling the sorts of values and manners that serve them well as<br />
adults. And if I have to move heaven and earth, now that they&#8217;ve retired, <strong>the<br />
Republican party is NOT going to redefine them as welfare<br />
recipients.</strong></p>
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<p>First, I agree, whether I like the program or not, that people who contributed for years and were promised certain benefits should receive them.&nbsp; The benefits the average retiree gets today were certainly paid for &#8211; in fact, over-paid-for given the implied rate of return they got for their forced &quot;savings&quot;.&nbsp; So I won&#8217;t argue that these retirees are getting financial welfare.</p>
<p>BUT, I would argue that they are getting <em>intellectual</em> welfare.&nbsp; Advocates for keeping forced savings programs like Social Security in place as-is by necesity argue that the average American is too stupid, too short-sighted, and/or too lazy to save for retirement without the government forcing them.&nbsp; Basically the argument is that <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/01/respecting_indi.html">we are smarter than you, and we are going to take control of aspects of your life that we think we can manage better than you can</a>.&nbsp; You are too stupid to save for retirement, too stupid to stop eating fatty foods, too stupid to wear a seat belt, and/or too stupid to accept employment on the right terms &#8212; so we will take control of these decisions for you, whether you like it or not.&nbsp; For lack of a better word, I call this <strong>intellectual welfare</strong>.&nbsp; </p>
<p>By the way, this is as good an answer as any to <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_05/006224.php">Mr. Drum&#8217;s earlier question why liberals don&#8217;t push the privacy issue harder</a>.&nbsp; He opines:</p>
<blockquote><p>Whenever I talk about the underlying principles that should guide liberals, <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_04/006199.php">as<br />
I did a couple of days ago,</a> one of the ideas that always pops up is privacy<br />
rights. In fact, it comes up so often that it strikes me that we&#8217;re missing a<br />
bet by not making a bigger deal out of it.</p>
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<p>I am all for a general and strong privacy right.&nbsp; I would love to see it Constitutionally enshrined.&nbsp; But liberals (like conservatives, but I am answering Drum&#8217;s question) don&#8217;t want it.&nbsp; They want to allow <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/04/selective_liber.html">women to choose abortions, but not choose breast implants</a>.&nbsp; They want the government to allow marijuana use but squelch fatty foods.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t want police checking for terrorists but do want them checking for people not wearing their seat belts.&nbsp; They want freedom of speech, <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/04/princeton_speec.html">until it criticizes groups to whom they are sympathetic</a>.&nbsp; They want to <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/04/the_aclu_is_a_l.html">allow topless dancers but regulate the hell out of how much they make</a>.&nbsp; Liberals, in sum, are <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/01/respecting_indi.html">at least as bad about wanting to control private, non-coerced individual decision-making as conservatives &#8212; they just want to control other aspects of our lives than do conservatives.</a>&nbsp; </p>
<p>A true privacy right would allow us complete freedom over who we sleep with, what we do with our bodies, where we work, and what we pay for goods.&nbsp; And, not incidentally, how we choose to invest for our retirement.&nbsp; Both parties want the government to control parts of our lives, so don&#8217;t expect either conservatices or liberals to be pushing the privacy issue very hard.</p>
<p>Update:&nbsp; William Mellor of the Institute of Justice has some thoughts related to this topic in <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/tal/PubArticleTAL.jsp?id=1115037322681">The American Lawyer</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span class="text">Without realizing it, liberals and conservatives are<br />
working from opposite ends of the political spectrum, under opposing<br />
rationales, to reach the same end: expanded government power&#8230; </p>
<p>The Framers envisioned a system in which individuals enjoyed<br />
rights equally, and the rights they enjoyed were treated with equal<br />
respect under the Constitution. But in 1938 the U.S. Supreme Court&#8217;s<br />
ruling in United States v. Carolene Products Co. (upholding a<br />
Congressional ban on interstate shipment of milk that contained added<br />
fat or oil) created an artificial dichotomy under the Constitution.<br />
Some rights, notably free speech, were elevated to a preferred tier and<br />
now rightly receive vigorous constitutional protection. Rights demoted<br />
to the second tier, specifically economic liberty and property rights,<br />
wrongly receive far less protection&#8230;.</p>
<p>Liberals, however, tend to reject the notion that the courts<br />
have any role in seriously protecting economic liberty or property<br />
rights. This is remarkable in light of the fact that many liberals<br />
strongly advocate court protection for various rights-such as welfare<br />
or abortion-whose constitutional pedigree is far more questionable than<br />
rights to private property and economic liberties.  </span></p>
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		<title>Employment at Will</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I mentioned employment at will in this post about police officers who were fired for assaulting a handcuffed man and who successfully sued for wrongful termination. Via George's Employment Blawg comes this article on employment at will and things...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I mentioned employment at will in <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/01/this_is_nuts.html">this post about police officers</a> who were fired for assaulting a handcuffed man and who successfully sued for wrongful termination.</p>
<p>Via <a href="http://employmentblawg.blogspot.com/2005/01/excellent-article-on-employee.html">George&#8217;s Employment Blawg</a> comes <a href="http://www.workforce.com/section/03/article/23/93/01.html">this article on employment at will</a> and things a small business should consider to reduce the possibility that fired employees will sue:</p>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><p>Hereâ€™s where things get tricky. In between employment at will and the law is a whole mess of claims, counterclaims, lawsuits, disputations and confusion. Itâ€™s enough to make anybody scratch their head.</p>
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<p dir="ltr">We have had several instances where employees have threatened legal action over termination.&nbsp; I have observed at least three reasons for this:</p>
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<div>Employees sometimes have a skewed view of the termination process, thinking that a company must hold to some kind of courtroom &quot;beyond a reasonable doubt&quot; standard in amassing reasons for termination.</div>
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<div>The most inept employees never seem to know that they are inept</div>
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<div>Some employees are far more adept at working the system than they are at their jobs.</div>
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<p>We do several things to help make things go smoother:</p>
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<div>Unless the violation was outrageous, where we fire on the spot, we try to give employees written warnings and coaching before they get terminated</div>
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<div>Every new employee signs a 60/90 day probationary period letter.&nbsp; If there are problems, they almost always occur in the probation period &#8212; ie they turn up quickly &#8212; and the probationary period gives us more leeway to quickly terminate.&nbsp; Update:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.ecouncil.org/Employment%20at%20Will.htm">This article says why this policy can be a mistake, or at least you have to be careful with it</a>.&nbsp; This is less of a problem for us since most of our employees only work a 5 month season anyway.</div>
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<div>We don&#8217;t give references.&nbsp; I have said that <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2004/11/feeling_guilty_.html">this makes me feel guilty</a>, but negative references about fired employees are a big source of litigation, and frankly, I am sorry to admit, the treat of wrongful termination suit is greatly reduced if the ex-employee finds a good job somewhere else.&nbsp; Kind of the business version of hot potato.</div>
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<div>Being a seasonal business saves us.&nbsp; For many employee problems, we limp along until the end of the season when we can terminate the person for lack of work, then we make sure not to rehire them in the spring.</div>
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<p>Update: Via <a href="http://www.overlawyered.com/archives/001940.html">Overlawyered</a>, this story in the <a href="http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/39174.htm">New York Post</a> (gotta love the headlines) about a teacher fired 17 years ago and still filing suits:</p>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><p>But the Clifton, N.J., instructor never got over it. Instead, he has filed 15 lawsuits in Manhattan federal court and three others in Brooklyn and New Jersey courts, seeking reinstatement and millions of dollars in damages. </p>
<p>Each lawsuit has been tossed out as meritless. But a defiant Malley hasn&#8217;t gotten the message or doesn&#8217;t care. </p>
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		<title>Employee Privacy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As with any labor law or legal liability issue, there are probably more ways to trip up than you ever imagined. This article at Faegre.com, which I found via George's Employment Blawg, has a nice summary of key issues in...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with any labor law or legal liability issue, there are probably more ways to trip up than you ever imagined.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.faegre.com/articles/article_1459.aspx">This article at Faegre.com</a>, which I found via <a href="http://employmentblawg.blogspot.com/2004/11/quit-peeking-at-me-nice-summary-of.html">George&#8217;s Employment Blawg</a>, has a nice summary of key issues in five categories.</p>
<p>Because the vast majority of our employees are over 70, and a number of them have disabilities, we have to be very careful in hiring.&nbsp; Many of our jobs can be physically challenging, and dangerous to perform with some disabilities, so we have to take care to make sure an employee understands the work and that we mutually agree they can do it safely.&nbsp; </p>
<p>One related area that I am not sure has been tested regards our corporate insurers.&nbsp; Increasingly, insurers, particularly for our corporate vehicle policies, are refusing to insure over-70 drivers without some kind of letter from a doctor that they are capable of driving safely.&nbsp; As you can imagine, doctors face liability if they put in writing the employee can drive safely (so the doctor might be liable if there is an accident) or if they write that the employee can&#8217;t drive safely (so the doctor might be liable for effectively denying the employee insurance, or even a job).&nbsp; As a&nbsp; result, doctors are reluctant to produce such letters.&nbsp; </p>
<p>It has not come up yet, but what happens if one of my employees is uninsurable for driving, and driving the company vehicle is an essential part of their job?&nbsp; Do I face an ADA case for discharging them?&nbsp; What choice would I have in that case?</p>
<p>We also have very severe challenges with off-duty behavior.&nbsp; Most all of our employees live on the job site (i.e. the campground managers live in the campground).&nbsp; So, off-duty behavior occurs on the job site.&nbsp; Until I had this company, I always said that I did not care what an employee did on her own hours at home &#8211; but now, what happens on the employee&#8217;s own time occurs in front of my customers.</p>
<p>We continue to walk a fine line on this.&nbsp; To date, we have told employees that even if they are not on the clock, if they are wearing our uniform or verbally representing themself as a company employee, they are subject to on-the-job behavior rules.&nbsp; Once the uniform is off and they are just &quot;Joe&quot;, and not &quot;the manager&quot;, they are free to do as they please, though they are still bound both by federal and state laws as well as campground rules.&nbsp; </p>
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		<title>Spanking Employees</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, just when you think you have seen every way to screw up in a small business, there comes this story.The owner of a shaved ice business was arrested after two employees claimed he spanked them for making mistakes at...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, just when you think you have seen every way to screw up in a small business, <a href="http://www.wftv.com/news/3905790/detail.html">there comes this story</a>.</p>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><p>The owner of a shaved ice business was arrested after two employees claimed he spanked them for making mistakes at work.</p>
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<p>And more&#8230;</p>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><p>One of the women told police that on her first day at the Tasty Flavors Sno Biz, Levengood made her sign a statement that said: &quot;I give Gene permission to bust my behind any way he sees fit.&quot;</p>
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<p dir="ltr">Hat tip to <a href="http://www.jimrome.com/home.html">Jim Rome</a>, as I first heard this on his radio show, and to the <a href="http://www.mises.org/blog/archives/002740.asp">Mises Institute</a>, of all places, where I found the link.&nbsp; This story has been out and about for a while, but I wanted to give it a few days to make sure it was not a hoax.</p>
<p dir="ltr">To make this more bizarre, I did a Google search to see if anyone had called this out as a hoax, and found that there have been many similar stories in other places, including <a href="http://www.nospank.net/s-j26.htm">here</a> and <a href="http://www.nospank.net/s-i98.htm">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Good Labor Law Site for Employers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just added <a href="http://employmentblawg.blogspot.com/">George&#8217;s Employment Blawg </a>to my blogroll.  As a small business, the biggest shock has been dealing with employment related issues (working for large corporations, this stuff was all invisible to the average general manager &#8211; huge departments of HR people just sortof took care of it).</p>
<p>I like what I have seen of this site, and its got some other useful links in the blog roll.  It is written from the perspective of the employer (which is actually unusual for labor law sites &#8211; most are run by lawyers who represent workers and are mostly instruction manuals on extracting more money from businesses).</p>
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		<title>Disputing Unemployment Claims</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As background, state unemployment offices generally give employers a chance to dispute new unemployment claims from ex-employees. In most states, if the employee voluntarily quit or was fired for cause, they are either not eligible or at least the employers...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As background, state unemployment offices generally give employers a chance to dispute new unemployment claims from ex-employees.  In most states, if the employee voluntarily quit or was fired for cause, they are either not eligible or at least the employers experience account is not hit  (for each employer, the state keeps a running tally of claims paid to their employees &#8211; if the sum is high enough in a given year, the employers rates go up for the next year).</p>
<p>This is all in theory.  I don&#8217;t know what other employer&#8217;s experiences are, but I almost NEVER win one of these disputes.  Most unemployment offices are stacked with people who&#8217;s bias is always toward the employee.  For example, in a recent case, I had documented evidence that an employee was fired for physically attacking a customer!  The state unemployment office denied my protest as not sufficient, and to this day I am paying that person&#8217;s unemployment.  Today, I got notice that California had denied my most recent protest.  I had sent evidence that an employee was repeatedly warned and eventually fired for constantly being late &#8211; day after day an hour or more late for weeks.  Nope, not good enough says California.  So, instead of paying this person for showing up late, I am paying them, via the unemployment system, for not showing up at all.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there are any tricks or techniques to be more successful at this?</p>
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