Government vs. Government, Gender War Edition

A while back I joked that the SJW's should stop the recent proposed rules to greatly expand corporate race and gender reporting (the current EEO-1 report) because the Feds only provide two categories (male and female) for gender.

As it turns out, this might actually be a real problem in New York

The NYCHRL [New York City Human Rights Law] requires employers[, landlords, and all businesses and professionals] to use an [employee’s, tenant’s, customer’s, or client’s] preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification.

Most individuals and many transgender people use female or male pronouns and titles. Some transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir. [Footnote: Ze and hir are popular gender-free pronouns preferred by some transgender and/or gender non-conforming individuals.] …

Examples of Violations

a. Intentional or repeated refusal to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun or title. For example, repeatedly calling a transgender woman “him” or “Mr.” after she has made clear which pronouns and title she uses …

So the Feds require me to categorize an employee as a male or female but New York makes it illegal to do so if the employee does not want to be in one of those categories.   Hmmm.


  • Earl Wertheimer

    Personally, I like 'king'.

  • J_W_W

    If I ran a service business in New York, I would make referring to he customer by title or by using pronouns a fireable offense.

  • Conqueror of All Foes Cheese

    My preferred honorific is "Studmuffin". I hope to visit NYC soon.

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  • Craig Loehle

    Also, you are not allowed to ask about personal stuff like this. Also, you can't ask about race (the forms I have seen always make it clear they are voluntary). Race is becoming increasingly arbitrary as people intermarry. I remember when Tiger Woods refused to identify his race to the media--good for him. And yet the gov wants to classify people who may not want to be classified. And is an employer seriously supposed to ask every employee if they are trans? How are you supposed to find out the preferred pronouns?
    All of the referrants I have seen like Ze and hir are third person pronouns. I have not seen a replacement for Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss. "I would like you to meet Smith" instead of Mr. Smith will become the new method of staying out of trouble.

  • Nehemiah

    Can the end be far away?

  • ano333

    Wouldn't this just be covered under the "supremacy" clause, and not really be an issue? States can have laws on the books that conflict with federal laws and rules, they just would be unable to enforce same.

  • Matthew Slyfield

    Not necessarily.

  • ano333

    Are you suggesting that the EEOC's rules are not within the enumerated powers of Congress? I presume the EEOC was granted rule-making powers by the statute that created it (but I confess I do not feel like reading the whole thing).

  • Matthew Slyfield

    The statute itself pushes the boundaries of congresses enumerated powers.

  • Dan Wendlick

    My preferred pronoun is zip-zip-zoot-zwee-b'tang.

    Of course I self identify as Very Silly

  • Dan Wendlick

    OH, and you have to get the rising inflection on the b'tang part, or I get offended.

  • kidmugsy

    I had an American friend who addressed everyone as Maestro.

  • Chris

    This is the funniest bit of governance since I heard about the historic and protected cottage in Carmel, CA, being battered by a historic and protected tree. Removing the tree to repair and restore the cottage was illegal. Not repairing the cottage and restoring it to its original appearance was illegal, too.

  • chembot

    I would go with the royal "we". A close second would be "Break Yo'self, fool! Chembot only refers to Chembot in the third person!"

  • John the River

    Captain Blondy Beard speaking

  • John the River

    An idiot idea born of a few ill-bred nitwits and up there with 'Pet Rocks' as a physiological concept but elevated to national policy by the Bastard in The White House. He certainly knows a stupid and disruptive idea when he hears it.

  • GoneWithTheWind

    Gender, race, disability, and sexual preference are all being used in a power play. It isn't about equality, it is about putting some people ahead of others. This is just an old fashioned power grab.

  • rambler

    "The feds require me"........ there in lies the problem. The feds have no business requiring most of what it does. It does so, not to protect anyone from anything, but to have an excuse to control those it has no right to control.

  • Figbash

    “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

    ― Theodore Dalrymple

    You know what happens when you stretch a rubber band really, really far ?