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		<title>By: Voolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every day this sort of thing (minus the firing &amp; prosecution, of course) is becoming more and more frequent.  Ever wonder why the police will take or smash a camera in the hands of a &quot;civilian&quot;?  Eventually, when our economy heads south in a big way (5 - 10 years), there will be open warfare between police and certain segments of the population.  Then we&#039;ll see the DHS (with their armed drones) become an occupation force.  Any bets?  Get your ammo now, friends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day this sort of thing (minus the firing &amp; prosecution, of course) is becoming more and more frequent.  Ever wonder why the police will take or smash a camera in the hands of a "civilian"?  Eventually, when our economy heads south in a big way (5 - 10 years), there will be open warfare between police and certain segments of the population.  Then we'll see the DHS (with their armed drones) become an occupation force.  Any bets?  Get your ammo now, friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, if to you beating a women is justified without any immediate physical threat, you shouldn&#039;t be trusted with any authority.   I&#039;m sure the city will settle a tort lawsuit for the actions of another uncontrollable rouge cop at the cost of the
taxpayers. If this abuse continues to be recorded the public&#039;s tolerance for this will end and legislation will be passed that will make an assault on a citizen without cause a mandatory criminal offense . In a small Midwest town I lived in, any officer that acted like this would have been fired. The difference, the police were part of the community not above it.  Regardless of what you learned in junior college, respect is earned not granted to any police officer by the public..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, if to you beating a women is justified without any immediate physical threat, you shouldn't be trusted with any authority.   I'm sure the city will settle a tort lawsuit for the actions of another uncontrollable rouge cop at the cost of the<br />
taxpayers. If this abuse continues to be recorded the public's tolerance for this will end and legislation will be passed that will make an assault on a citizen without cause a mandatory criminal offense . In a small Midwest town I lived in, any officer that acted like this would have been fired. The difference, the police were part of the community not above it.  Regardless of what you learned in junior college, respect is earned not granted to any police officer by the public..</p>
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		<title>By: Toad Floater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toad Floater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the 2 sec to 3 sec mark, on the left side of the image, a short-pants wearing person obviously sends an arc of liquid towards the crowd (you don&#039;t see the full image of this person).  The cops and the lady all got splashed and all turned at the same moment.  The cop, it seems, thought the lady did the splashing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the 2 sec to 3 sec mark, on the left side of the image, a short-pants wearing person obviously sends an arc of liquid towards the crowd (you don't see the full image of this person).  The cops and the lady all got splashed and all turned at the same moment.  The cop, it seems, thought the lady did the splashing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry guys....the knee-jerk &quot;fuck the police&quot; attitude is getting old.  While I KNOW there are jack-ass police officers out there, the situation here looks to me to be right there on the edge of acceptable use of force.  That woman is CLEARLY (upon several viewings of the first several seconds) throwing an unknown substance onto those police officers, watch her left arm go back and forth in a &quot;dousing&quot; motion with what appears to be a vessel of some sort.  If as a police officer charged with maintaining order at an obviously energized demonstration, somebody throwing a liquid substance onto myself and my fellow officers has gone WAAAYYY over the line.  I have no idea what the liquid is (gasoline, lye, bleach, acid, feces, blood, etc etc etc...all of which have been used as weapons in these types of scenarios), or what the intent of the attacker is.  Neutralizing a smaller adversary with a single blow is DRAMATICALLY more safe and effective given all the unknowns than attempting to wrestle or otherwise take the time to put your hands on this person who may be contaminated or take the unknown substance from them before you know what it is, thereby putting yourself unnecessarily at risk.  


Yes it looks dramatic and violent.....but her bloody nose and pride will heal....and those officers will go home.... and be able to come back and protect the public that is obviously quite ignorant of exactly what these men and women face every day to maintain some sense of order....whether you think it&#039;s for your benefit or the benefit of some shadow entity pulling all the strings...that order is necessary for the majority of us to enjoy a somewhat quiet life. 



Think about this....if you were watching the fireworks on the 4th of July....with your children...and some &quot;person&quot; started throwing a potentially dangerous substance on you and your kids....what would you do.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys....the knee-jerk "fuck the police" attitude is getting old.  While I KNOW there are jack-ass police officers out there, the situation here looks to me to be right there on the edge of acceptable use of force.  That woman is CLEARLY (upon several viewings of the first several seconds) throwing an unknown substance onto those police officers, watch her left arm go back and forth in a "dousing" motion with what appears to be a vessel of some sort.  If as a police officer charged with maintaining order at an obviously energized demonstration, somebody throwing a liquid substance onto myself and my fellow officers has gone WAAAYYY over the line.  I have no idea what the liquid is (gasoline, lye, bleach, acid, feces, blood, etc etc etc...all of which have been used as weapons in these types of scenarios), or what the intent of the attacker is.  Neutralizing a smaller adversary with a single blow is DRAMATICALLY more safe and effective given all the unknowns than attempting to wrestle or otherwise take the time to put your hands on this person who may be contaminated or take the unknown substance from them before you know what it is, thereby putting yourself unnecessarily at risk.  </p>
<p>Yes it looks dramatic and violent.....but her bloody nose and pride will heal....and those officers will go home.... and be able to come back and protect the public that is obviously quite ignorant of exactly what these men and women face every day to maintain some sense of order....whether you think it's for your benefit or the benefit of some shadow entity pulling all the strings...that order is necessary for the majority of us to enjoy a somewhat quiet life. </p>
<p>Think about this....if you were watching the fireworks on the 4th of July....with your children...and some "person" started throwing a potentially dangerous substance on you and your kids....what would you do.....</p>
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		<title>By: obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 06:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[}}} I understand the pressures and risks police face and they largely do a good job of restraining themselves, given what they deal with.

SOME do. Many don&#039;t.

There was a time when the classic &quot;neighborhood cop on the beat&quot; was a practical, realistic view. When the &quot;Andy Taylor&#039;s&quot; were not uncommon. 

Nowadays, it&#039;s more like 60-30. A  lot of cops get off on throwing their weight around, and if you attract their ire -- just or not -- they think they have the right, not JUST the power, to teach you one hell of a lesson.

That&#039;s one reason they&#039;re so adamant about making sure you don&#039;t photograph them in the act, despite the fact that they have no right to not be filmed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} I understand the pressures and risks police face and they largely do a good job of restraining themselves, given what they deal with.</p>
<p>SOME do. Many don't.</p>
<p>There was a time when the classic "neighborhood cop on the beat" was a practical, realistic view. When the "Andy Taylor's" were not uncommon. </p>
<p>Nowadays, it's more like 60-30. A  lot of cops get off on throwing their weight around, and if you attract their ire -- just or not -- they think they have the right, not JUST the power, to teach you one hell of a lesson.</p>
<p>That's one reason they're so adamant about making sure you don't photograph them in the act, despite the fact that they have no right to not be filmed.</p>
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		<title>By: obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 06:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will state that, if a cop ever did that to me (beat the crap out of me just because he could), he would not survive it for long if the courts did not provide justice.

And they could try all they want, it would just be another &quot;unsolved murder&quot; some years later.

That kind of POS needs to be removed from the gene pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will state that, if a cop ever did that to me (beat the crap out of me just because he could), he would not survive it for long if the courts did not provide justice.</p>
<p>And they could try all they want, it would just be another "unsolved murder" some years later.</p>
<p>That kind of POS needs to be removed from the gene pool.</p>
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		<title>By: obloodyhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>obloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And these bozos are the ones libtards want to be the only ones allowed to carry guns.

Wait... WHAT?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And these bozos are the ones libtards want to be the only ones allowed to carry guns.</p>
<p>Wait... WHAT?</p>
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		<title>By: marco73</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really have to understand cop mentality. Someone in the crowd dissed this cop&#039;s &quot;authority&quot;, so someone had to pay.
You should hear cops talk about how they really &quot;slammed&quot; someone, or put someone in the hospital with a beat down. This cop isn&#039;t embarrassed: he&#039;s proud of showing someone how tough he is.
And acquited by a judge in Philly? You have heard how the Philly courts are so corrupt that the state is looking at completely shutting down the traffic courts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really have to understand cop mentality. Someone in the crowd dissed this cop's "authority", so someone had to pay.<br />
You should hear cops talk about how they really "slammed" someone, or put someone in the hospital with a beat down. This cop isn't embarrassed: he's proud of showing someone how tough he is.<br />
And acquited by a judge in Philly? You have heard how the Philly courts are so corrupt that the state is looking at completely shutting down the traffic courts.</p>
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		<title>By: FelineCannonball</title>
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		<dc:creator>FelineCannonball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s happening in LA with the random people in SUVs they shot up during the big manhunt?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What's happening in LA with the random people in SUVs they shot up during the big manhunt?</p>
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		<title>By: bigmaq1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigmaq1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree on hesitation before reacting...

Not sure I&#039;d count even 5% as acceptable...I understand the pressures and risks police face and they largely do a good job of restraining themselves, given what they deal with.  

Often, it may come down to a snap decision / judgement call they have to make (e.g. the xxxx looked like a gun in the dark alley) and one could give them the benefit of the doubt.  

However, if this is over &quot;spilled beer&quot;, there really is no excuse and therefore no slack.   

If it was a domestic abuse case with the same footage and similar rationale, I doubt he&#039;d get acquitted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree on hesitation before reacting...</p>
<p>Not sure I'd count even 5% as acceptable...I understand the pressures and risks police face and they largely do a good job of restraining themselves, given what they deal with.  </p>
<p>Often, it may come down to a snap decision / judgement call they have to make (e.g. the xxxx looked like a gun in the dark alley) and one could give them the benefit of the doubt.  </p>
<p>However, if this is over "spilled beer", there really is no excuse and therefore no slack.   </p>
<p>If it was a domestic abuse case with the same footage and similar rationale, I doubt he'd get acquitted.</p>
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