Comments on: You Can Officially Ignore All Future Administration Jobs Numbers

By: bobby b

bobby b — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:49:29 +0000

“And I’m sure when people have their hours cut the Obama administration uses that to balance added hours and “parts of jobs.””
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As it appears that our stimulus money primarily stimulated government employment, and as hours are NEVER cut for government employees, they’ll never need to worry about this.

At some point in the future, you’ll have hordes of shocked and panicking government employees surrounding the dead body of the one guy who had still been performing actual productive non-governmental work, screaming that he can’t die, because they have a CONTRACT! . . . .

By: jay

jay — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:39:19 +0000

How long did she spend figuring out how to fill out that form? That time could have been used productively, instead it was used to fill out a stupid government form.

ahhh … employees are needed to fill out the forms and to collect and tally the forms… jobs created!!!

By: David Zetland

David Zetland — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:39:06 +0000

Awesome post. Orwell would be proud!

By: MikeL

MikeL — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:47:25 +0000

I am real sure that I heard President Obama and Vice President Biden say that they created (or saved) a pant load of jobs at least three times. As most people know, if you say the same LIE at least three times than the lie becomes the truth.

By: Bob Smith

Bob Smith — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:30:46 +0000

More than 250 other community agencies in the U.S. similarly reported saving jobs when using the money to give pay raises, to pay for training and continuing education, to extend employee work hours

This is strikingly dangerous. I’d bet most of these people work under civil service rules that prohibit pay and benefit cuts, regardless of how they’re funded. What happens when the stimulus money runs out? The local government gets crushed by their big new payroll obligations, requiring either big staff cuts (if that’s even possible under the civil service rules in effect) or big tax increases to pay for our new overclass.

By: Sameer Parekh

Sameer Parekh — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:06:59 +0000

Another thing that is interesting about the Buddy Boots story is the amount of time that was wasted filling out the stupid form. Multiple calls to the helpline? How long did she spend figuring out how to fill out that form? That time could have been used productively, instead it was used to fill out a stupid government form.

By: Brad K.

Brad K. — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:59:55 +0000

I am astounded the real horror of this story hasn’t been pointed out.

Buddy Moore got an order from the Army Corps of Engineers. That was considered “stimulus” money – he had to fill out reports on it. This is an example of Obama and his henchmen attaching their influence – in the sense of the traditional protection racket – into Buddy Moore’s shoe store in Campbellsville, Kentucky.

Apparently, the stimulus payouts are being used as a clandestine, not to say gangster-like, means of grabbing control of private businesses. Now Buddy Moore’s shoe store is beholden to the government; they are demanding their pound of flesh. Paula Moore-Kirby perjured herself to avoid the implied threats of the government. The correct answer of “zero jobs created or saved” was obviously, by the instructions, unacceptable.

The way reporting requirements were imposed, along with the order, and the aggressive and intimidating stance of the government are the real story here.

By: BillS

BillS — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:46:46 +0000

Sorry on that first sentence I sound almost illiterate… should have read closer to:
“Actually these raises don’t just fail to create jobs, they represent jobs lost.”

By: BillS

BillS — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:45:13 +0000

One more thing regarding raises – actually these isn’t just not job creation it means jobs lost. One report said that experienced people might quit if not given raises…. thus when the Stimulus dollars were offered these people should have been encouraged to quit. You could then have hired unemployed people off the street for less than you were paying those experienced whiners and not only would you be able to replace the employee who quit, but you could have combined the savings in wages from your obviously overpaid employees with the stimulus dollars to actually create another low paying job – thus putting more people to work for poverty wages.

By: BillS

BillS — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:39:56 +0000

So if there were 9 pairs of boots, for $900.00 you take the cost of materials or cost of stocking the boots and subtract it from teh $900. Let’s say this leave $500. You then take one employee’s salary say $25,000 and divide the $500 by $25,000 and that’s the number of employee jobs you’ve saved (given that you are operating without any actual profits for this sale – since it’s for the government and all profits are evil if paid by the government
at best this means those 9 boots saved what about .02 jobs… of course if you need to pass the $400 in original cost onto your vendors so they can take the time to determine their cost of the boots and you should determine how much time you lost computing all of this which goes at the hourly rate of your accountant vs. your sales/manufacturing team (and your accountant possibly makes more than the sales team) but the truth is out there…