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	<title>Comments on: This Has To Be An Outright Lie</title>
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		<title>By: Mesa Econoguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesa Econoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is yet another very plausible alternative: they have read this information, and do not understand it.

I think this is probably the most likely possibility.  GSPâ„¢</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is yet another very plausible alternative: they have read this information, and do not understand it.</p>
<p>I think this is probably the most likely possibility.  GSPâ„¢</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chilling indeed.  I remember when the laugh getter was the governments reference to &quot;Excess Profits&quot; that came from some windfall or other random event (see: Hard Work).  

The worst to my thinking is that we are pretty much all in the service sector now.  Very few manufacturers.  As such, they have all our professions lined up to atack at their leisure as making &quot;just plain too much&quot; money. 

It&#039;s too scary to be amusing to see the newspapers and media loosing business by the minute and still unable to see any relationship to this and their long forgotten profession.

E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chilling indeed.  I remember when the laugh getter was the governments reference to &#8220;Excess Profits&#8221; that came from some windfall or other random event (see: Hard Work).  </p>
<p>The worst to my thinking is that we are pretty much all in the service sector now.  Very few manufacturers.  As such, they have all our professions lined up to atack at their leisure as making &#8220;just plain too much&#8221; money. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s too scary to be amusing to see the newspapers and media loosing business by the minute and still unable to see any relationship to this and their long forgotten profession.</p>
<p>E</p>
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		<title>By: wondering</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t ROI be a better measure to compare profitability ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t ROI be a better measure to compare profitability ?</p>
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		<title>By: morganovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>morganovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you may be overlooking an ever more sinister possibility:

that reid, pelosi, etc have looked up these numbers and don&#039;t care.

the point is not whether they looked them up.  the point is whether they think most of the public will.   few people love their insurance company, therefore it&#039;s easy to stir up antipathy and anger.  they are an easy target.  so long as few enough people check the facts, you can use you congressional bully pulpit to just lie.  as lenin said &quot;a falsehood repeated often enough becomes the truth&quot;.

if our media were disposed to check facts and call liars out, we would be able to counter such, but in a day and age where media has firmly chosen political sides and will not criticize theior own, sowing disinformation becomes terribly easy.

&quot;The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper.&quot; --Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13, 1785. (*) ME 5:181, Papers 8:632</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you may be overlooking an ever more sinister possibility:</p>
<p>that reid, pelosi, etc have looked up these numbers and don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>the point is not whether they looked them up.  the point is whether they think most of the public will.   few people love their insurance company, therefore it&#8217;s easy to stir up antipathy and anger.  they are an easy target.  so long as few enough people check the facts, you can use you congressional bully pulpit to just lie.  as lenin said &#8220;a falsehood repeated often enough becomes the truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>if our media were disposed to check facts and call liars out, we would be able to counter such, but in a day and age where media has firmly chosen political sides and will not criticize theior own, sowing disinformation becomes terribly easy.</p>
<p>&#8220;The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers&#8230; [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper.&#8221; &#8211;Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13, 1785. (*) ME 5:181, Papers 8:632</p>
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		<title>By: wolfwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: &lt;i&gt;The providers should be profit free, but they and their friends should be free to skim as much cash for themselves as they like.&lt;/i&gt; 

Of course.  Because when a socialist does it, it isn&#039;t skimming; it&#039;s them taking their rightful due.  As the Best and Brightest of the human species, they sacrifice their own happiness to shoulder the Intellectual&#039;s Burden of looking after the common folk.  Plainly, no remuneration could possibly even be adequate for such tremendous nobility of spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: <i>The providers should be profit free, but they and their friends should be free to skim as much cash for themselves as they like.</i> </p>
<p>Of course.  Because when a socialist does it, it isn&#8217;t skimming; it&#8217;s them taking their rightful due.  As the Best and Brightest of the human species, they sacrifice their own happiness to shoulder the Intellectual&#8217;s Burden of looking after the common folk.  Plainly, no remuneration could possibly even be adequate for such tremendous nobility of spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Noumenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noumenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I much appreciate Perry supplying the Return on Equity rankings as well, even though I don&#039;t understand them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I much appreciate Perry supplying the Return on Equity rankings as well, even though I don&#8217;t understand them.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s immoral the amount of money Pelosi makes as a Rep.  Her salary comes at the expense of America&#039;s working families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s immoral the amount of money Pelosi makes as a Rep.  Her salary comes at the expense of America&#8217;s working families.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wolfwalker,

I guess liberals use a double standard. The providers should be profit free, but they and their friends should be free to skim as much cash for themselves as they like. Health care and cap and trade create whole new areas for the trials lawyers to drain and funnel money back to the liberal politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wolfwalker,</p>
<p>I guess liberals use a double standard. The providers should be profit free, but they and their friends should be free to skim as much cash for themselves as they like. Health care and cap and trade create whole new areas for the trials lawyers to drain and funnel money back to the liberal politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You overlook a third possibility, at least where the Bitch Princess&#039;s line about &quot;the immoral profits being made by the insurance industry&quot; is concerned.  To a liberal, &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; profit made off supplying an &quot;essential&quot; service like health care is by definition immoral.  Also unethical, excessive, obscene, unconscionable, and any other similar term.  Doctors, hospitals, pharmaceuticals makers, health insurance companies -- all should be nonprofits, charging the absolute minimum required to recoup their own direct costs and not a penny more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You overlook a third possibility, at least where the Bitch Princess&#8217;s line about &#8220;the immoral profits being made by the insurance industry&#8221; is concerned.  To a liberal, <b>any</b> profit made off supplying an &#8220;essential&#8221; service like health care is by definition immoral.  Also unethical, excessive, obscene, unconscionable, and any other similar term.  Doctors, hospitals, pharmaceuticals makers, health insurance companies &#8212; all should be nonprofits, charging the absolute minimum required to recoup their own direct costs and not a penny more.</p>
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		<title>By: ElamBend</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElamBend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because so many people get insurance, it&#039;s close to a utility.  I&#039;m sure these folks understand this and think that will all this money coming in, they must be loaded.  Why would they think only about income and not expenses, well look at their experience.  They belong to the biggest &#039;utility&#039; of all, the government with 100% enrollment, enforced by law (I know 40% don&#039;t pay, but they have to file anyway to get the benefits).  Plus, in their business they don&#039;t have to worry about profit margin because they can always print more money or tax more.  It&#039;s a difference of perception based upon differing life experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because so many people get insurance, it&#8217;s close to a utility.  I&#8217;m sure these folks understand this and think that will all this money coming in, they must be loaded.  Why would they think only about income and not expenses, well look at their experience.  They belong to the biggest &#8216;utility&#8217; of all, the government with 100% enrollment, enforced by law (I know 40% don&#8217;t pay, but they have to file anyway to get the benefits).  Plus, in their business they don&#8217;t have to worry about profit margin because they can always print more money or tax more.  It&#8217;s a difference of perception based upon differing life experiences.</p>
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