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		<title>By: Durk Pearson</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2009/11/answer-zero.html/comment-page-1#comment-25296</link>
		<dc:creator>Durk Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because very few reporters have any knowledge of economics other than socialist myths.  I doubt that one reporter in a thousand understands the broken window fallacy. Coyotes are much more intelligent than the average reporter; I&#039;ll bet you a rabbit dinner that you will never find even one coyote who believes that damaging his den was good for the pack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because very few reporters have any knowledge of economics other than socialist myths.  I doubt that one reporter in a thousand understands the broken window fallacy. Coyotes are much more intelligent than the average reporter; I&#8217;ll bet you a rabbit dinner that you will never find even one coyote who believes that damaging his den was good for the pack.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herr Dr. T,  I must take strong issue with your statement that Krugman&#039;s recent writing is all cr*p.  I think his writings are much more than that, In fact, all cr*p.  The Nobel club gave away the same prize years ago for theories proving the very opposite of herr mr. Krugman blatherings.

Is no one suprized that the administration&#039;s finest minds are not accountants but creative writers?

E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herr Dr. T,  I must take strong issue with your statement that Krugman&#8217;s recent writing is all cr*p.  I think his writings are much more than that, In fact, all cr*p.  The Nobel club gave away the same prize years ago for theories proving the very opposite of herr mr. Krugman blatherings.</p>
<p>Is no one suprized that the administration&#8217;s finest minds are not accountants but creative writers?</p>
<p>E</p>
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		<title>By: Link</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the private sector, sayeth Obama, Pelosi and Krugman:

&quot;The beatings will continue, until morale improves.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the private sector, sayeth Obama, Pelosi and Krugman:</p>
<p>&#8220;The beatings will continue, until morale improves.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mesa Econoguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesa Econoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just to pile on more, hereâ€™s our friend yoshalist again.  Hey, welcome back, unobservant fool.

Hereâ€™s an article by an actual economist (Ed Lazear, smarter than Krugman, but then, who isnâ€™t?) asking this very question in todayâ€™s Wall Street Journal:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574509341078005538.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stimulus and the Jobless Recovery &lt;/a&gt;
Jobs &#039;created or saved&#039; is meaningless. What matters is net job gain or loss, and that means the unemployment rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just to pile on more, hereâ€™s our friend yoshalist again.  Hey, welcome back, unobservant fool.</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s an article by an actual economist (Ed Lazear, smarter than Krugman, but then, who isnâ€™t?) asking this very question in todayâ€™s Wall Street Journal:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574509341078005538.html" rel="nofollow">Stimulus and the Jobless Recovery </a><br />
Jobs &#8216;created or saved&#8217; is meaningless. What matters is net job gain or loss, and that means the unemployment rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to pile on a bit here,

[Solid growth will continue only if private spending takes up the baton as the effect of the stimulus fades. And so far thereâ€™s no sign that this is happening.]

Isn&#039;t the point of stimulus to &quot;stimulate&quot; the private spending he is admonishing to &quot;take up the baton&quot;? If the &quot;effect&quot; of the stimulus is fading, then it didn&#039;t have much &quot;effect&quot;, did it? He admits as much in that last quoted sentence. I don&#039;t read Krugman anymore, but let me guess for all our amusement, his prescription for fixing this little problem is yet more stimulus. Do I win the prize?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to pile on a bit here,</p>
<p>[Solid growth will continue only if private spending takes up the baton as the effect of the stimulus fades. And so far thereâ€™s no sign that this is happening.]</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the point of stimulus to &#8220;stimulate&#8221; the private spending he is admonishing to &#8220;take up the baton&#8221;? If the &#8220;effect&#8221; of the stimulus is fading, then it didn&#8217;t have much &#8220;effect&#8221;, did it? He admits as much in that last quoted sentence. I don&#8217;t read Krugman anymore, but let me guess for all our amusement, his prescription for fixing this little problem is yet more stimulus. Do I win the prize?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;â€œBut how many jobs were lost from where these funds were taken?â€&quot;

The answer is none, because no funds were borrowed from US banks. Instead, the funds were created out of thin air and eventually will result in either inflation or increased borrowing from foreign nations (predominantly China).

However, there were indirect job losses due to business concerns about our national debt and expected future tax increases. It&#039;s impossible to calculate these losses.


And, Yoshidad, Krugman sold his soul to Democratic interests years ago. The fact that previous work won him a Nobel prize means nothing when his recent writings are almost all crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;â€œBut how many jobs were lost from where these funds were taken?â€&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is none, because no funds were borrowed from US banks. Instead, the funds were created out of thin air and eventually will result in either inflation or increased borrowing from foreign nations (predominantly China).</p>
<p>However, there were indirect job losses due to business concerns about our national debt and expected future tax increases. It&#8217;s impossible to calculate these losses.</p>
<p>And, Yoshidad, Krugman sold his soul to Democratic interests years ago. The fact that previous work won him a Nobel prize means nothing when his recent writings are almost all crap.</p>
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		<title>By: ArtD0dger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArtD0dger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My nomination for most unintentionally humorous phrase in Yoshidad&#039;s Krugman link: 

[Solid growth will continue only if private spending takes up the baton as the effect of the stimulus fades. And so far thereâ€™s no sign that this is happening.]

Because, just as with CO2 in the climate, government spending will trigger positive feedback and snowball private economic activity along with it real soon now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My nomination for most unintentionally humorous phrase in Yoshidad&#8217;s Krugman link: </p>
<p>[Solid growth will continue only if private spending takes up the baton as the effect of the stimulus fades. And so far thereâ€™s no sign that this is happening.]</p>
<p>Because, just as with CO2 in the climate, government spending will trigger positive feedback and snowball private economic activity along with it real soon now.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoshidad (scarily) reminds me of a few folks who, for my wife&#039;s sake (skip story) I&#039;ve done consulting. These folks insisted they had a sure-fire machine. Which in reality was a perpetual motion machine. Which they denied, no matter the depth of research and (labor intensive) care of refutation I presented. They simply believed the 2nd law did not apply to their invention.

Krugman (and Keynes) provide nothing more than extra examples of the same sort of thinking. But more dangerous. Because they involve guns. They involve worship, too, since they insist gov&#039;t can create by fiat. Faith in that failed god does not die despite evidence of disaster. (Note how Yoshidad &#039;believes&#039; gov&#039;t fiat econ activity creates wealth = creates more wealth than it (consumes + displaces)). Krugman, rather than recognizing how FDR&#039;s econ policies extended the depression, insists that WWII deficit spending cost nothing but gained everything. That&#039;s faith contrary to fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoshidad (scarily) reminds me of a few folks who, for my wife&#8217;s sake (skip story) I&#8217;ve done consulting. These folks insisted they had a sure-fire machine. Which in reality was a perpetual motion machine. Which they denied, no matter the depth of research and (labor intensive) care of refutation I presented. They simply believed the 2nd law did not apply to their invention.</p>
<p>Krugman (and Keynes) provide nothing more than extra examples of the same sort of thinking. But more dangerous. Because they involve guns. They involve worship, too, since they insist gov&#8217;t can create by fiat. Faith in that failed god does not die despite evidence of disaster. (Note how Yoshidad &#8216;believes&#8217; gov&#8217;t fiat econ activity creates wealth = creates more wealth than it (consumes + displaces)). Krugman, rather than recognizing how FDR&#8217;s econ policies extended the depression, insists that WWII deficit spending cost nothing but gained everything. That&#8217;s faith contrary to fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoshidad...  In a word, &quot;no&quot;.

Government confiscating money and using it for the purpose of economic stimulus is not a zero-sum game, it is a negative-sum game.  The political incentives involved in the process make it impossible for government to make decisions as efficient as those of even irrational actors on a level playing field in a free market.  The Keynesian hypothesis ignores this problem of information and incentives.  When those are taken into account, the Keynesian hypothesis of economic stimulus is roundly proven false.  The current employment situation is just another example of this playing out, as private employers wait for the economic situation to stabilize before bringing on new employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoshidad&#8230;  In a word, &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
<p>Government confiscating money and using it for the purpose of economic stimulus is not a zero-sum game, it is a negative-sum game.  The political incentives involved in the process make it impossible for government to make decisions as efficient as those of even irrational actors on a level playing field in a free market.  The Keynesian hypothesis ignores this problem of information and incentives.  When those are taken into account, the Keynesian hypothesis of economic stimulus is roundly proven false.  The current employment situation is just another example of this playing out, as private employers wait for the economic situation to stabilize before bringing on new employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a market scare causes capital to be dumped into safer assets like t-bills and bonds then government spending will create more jobs in the short term by using the capital instead of just letting it sit. In the long term there can be no net jobs but the trade off may be justified in some circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a market scare causes capital to be dumped into safer assets like t-bills and bonds then government spending will create more jobs in the short term by using the capital instead of just letting it sit. In the long term there can be no net jobs but the trade off may be justified in some circumstances.</p>
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