Comments on: Regulating the Process, not Actual Safety

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By: josh

josh — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:28:49 +0000

I am a bit confused, how would one create a law that enforces the restriction “that a child cannot by any reasonable use of the product ingest more than X concentration of lead” without establishing some sort of testing and verification program.

Either we test, or we don’t. If we test, one might argue as to the thoroughness of the testing required, but some level of bureaucracy will be required to verify testing and enforce recalls and sanctions in the event of a testing failure.

By: gn

gn — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:17:51 +0000

Where did the law end up with respect to garage sales and thrift-store sales of older toys? Will they be forced to discard all un-tracked and un-tested products, thereby forcing people to buy new products from the same vendors and manufacturers that caused the problem?

By: Not Sure

Not Sure — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:50:23 +0000

“My favorite part in all this was that a perfectly good law already existed and did in fact work.” – LoneSnark

If one law = good, it only stands to reason that more laws = better.

By: LoneSnark

LoneSnark — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:12:00 +0000

My favorite part in all this was that a perfectly good law already existed and did in fact work.

By: DrTorch

DrTorch — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:03:29 +0000

This law always felt very personal to me, as a chemist who created and marketed an educational board game. Personal as in insulting.

This wasn’t just about lead. The restricted compounds also included pthalates. An interesting class of compounds that are used widely in manufacturing. Manufacturing of ANYTHING…carpets, clothes, plastics, etc. In fact while working on contamination control for a spacecraft instrument, we couldn’t get away from detecting pthalates, even after extensive cleaning and assembly in a clean room.

The craft makers who sell at the local flea market will probably be able to skate by for a while. For a while, some of the places we sold our game at were very rigid on ensuring all state and local tax guidelines were followed. They’ll likely follow up w/ this.

If you use distributors (as we did) they are on the hook and insist that vendors provide evidence of compliance. Understandable IMO, but limited to large companies.

By: Ian Random

Ian Random — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:17:38 +0000

Hugh Hewitt was talking about this months ago. I love the part where ATV’s for kids can’t have lead in the engine block. What is the kid going to do? Rebuild an engine or lick it? He also had some lady on from the CPSC who said that the law was written in such a way that they can’t weaken (add common sense) any of the regulations without an act of Congress even though Congress denies it. It cracks me up to see the ultra lefty toy producers making stuff out of blocks of organic recycled rain forest safe hemp complain they can’t afford the testing. I wonder if they could fathom it as a barrier to entry so as to not challenge the big plastic toy producers.