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	<title>Comments on: But&#8217;s Its My Hard Work Paying Your Unemployment</title>
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		<title>By: workplace bosses human resources</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2009/09/buts-its-my-hard-work-paying-your-unemployment.html/comment-page-1#comment-23907</link>
		<dc:creator>workplace bosses human resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lot of people who are unemployed looking for jobs. The government should take steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lot of people who are unemployed looking for jobs. The government should take steps.</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long do unemployment transfer payments usually last?</description>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unemployment is a joke.

As an employer in PA - I used to try and fight bad unemployment claims.

I caught a truck driver stealing from me and fired him for cause.  He filed for unemployment.  Of course I didn&#039;t win that.   

I had an employee quit on an a Friday.  No advanced notice - nothing.  In a season when I really needed him.  He found a &quot;better job&quot;.  He slept in and was late for the first 2 days of the job and was fired.  Filed for unemployment against me.  Of course I didn&#039;t win that.

Now PA has a law that you need an attorney to fight any unemployment claims.  You can&#039;t do it yourself (even though you never won it atleast made them get off their dead a** and show up for the hearing).  Its not not worth the hassle and expense.  Just another tax.

What I have found is that the more &quot;benefits&quot; the governemt gives out the stronger their constituencey.  They don&#039;t give a fig about 10 small business men when they can give out free money to 1,000 potential voters.

What a joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unemployment is a joke.</p>
<p>As an employer in PA &#8211; I used to try and fight bad unemployment claims.</p>
<p>I caught a truck driver stealing from me and fired him for cause.  He filed for unemployment.  Of course I didn&#8217;t win that.   </p>
<p>I had an employee quit on an a Friday.  No advanced notice &#8211; nothing.  In a season when I really needed him.  He found a &#8220;better job&#8221;.  He slept in and was late for the first 2 days of the job and was fired.  Filed for unemployment against me.  Of course I didn&#8217;t win that.</p>
<p>Now PA has a law that you need an attorney to fight any unemployment claims.  You can&#8217;t do it yourself (even though you never won it atleast made them get off their dead a** and show up for the hearing).  Its not not worth the hassle and expense.  Just another tax.</p>
<p>What I have found is that the more &#8220;benefits&#8221; the governemt gives out the stronger their constituencey.  They don&#8217;t give a fig about 10 small business men when they can give out free money to 1,000 potential voters.</p>
<p>What a joke</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,
I wasn&#039;t fired, I was laid off with no chance of recall.  If they would have fired me I had legal recourse, but, since I was laid off there was nothing I could do.  To fire me they would have had to show that I violated company rules or policy.  The ink was barely dry on my last evaluation form which contained all &quot;above expectation&quot; ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,<br />
I wasn&#8217;t fired, I was laid off with no chance of recall.  If they would have fired me I had legal recourse, but, since I was laid off there was nothing I could do.  To fire me they would have had to show that I violated company rules or policy.  The ink was barely dry on my last evaluation form which contained all &#8220;above expectation&#8221; ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: the other coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone see the headline a week or two ago that the feds were going to extend unemployment benefits in states with high unemployment, but not in states with low unemployment?  Once again, states that do things right get to subsidize states that do things wrong. I feel like all we do here in Texas is work our asses off to support a bunch of worthless surfers. 

But I do feel terribly, horribly sorry for the ag sector in California. Since when does a little bait fish take precedence over feeding humans?  I&#039;m reading my daughter a series of books about Rose Wilder, the daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder, which are set in 1894.  How much the world, and attitudes toward the world and man&#039;s role in it, have changed just since my grandmother was born (my grandmother was born in 1897 and died in 1993. She was such an interesting link to the way the world should be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone see the headline a week or two ago that the feds were going to extend unemployment benefits in states with high unemployment, but not in states with low unemployment?  Once again, states that do things right get to subsidize states that do things wrong. I feel like all we do here in Texas is work our asses off to support a bunch of worthless surfers. </p>
<p>But I do feel terribly, horribly sorry for the ag sector in California. Since when does a little bait fish take precedence over feeding humans?  I&#8217;m reading my daughter a series of books about Rose Wilder, the daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder, which are set in 1894.  How much the world, and attitudes toward the world and man&#8217;s role in it, have changed just since my grandmother was born (my grandmother was born in 1897 and died in 1993. She was such an interesting link to the way the world should be).</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim Collins:

Well, that is one reason why pension plans shouldn&#039;t be made by a third party, but by you. However, even if you were fired for the reason you stated, this is not a healthy policy for any company. The signaling for other employees is too harsh.

Though I can think that such stupid companies still exist and more so in today&#039;s business climate. On the other side, I wonder why they could fire you like that after such a long time? Didn&#039;t you have some kind of provisions against it in your contract (like 3 month notice or some such)? And where there no signals in your company that showed up that maybe this company has a bad attitude on labour policies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim Collins:</p>
<p>Well, that is one reason why pension plans shouldn&#8217;t be made by a third party, but by you. However, even if you were fired for the reason you stated, this is not a healthy policy for any company. The signaling for other employees is too harsh.</p>
<p>Though I can think that such stupid companies still exist and more so in today&#8217;s business climate. On the other side, I wonder why they could fire you like that after such a long time? Didn&#8217;t you have some kind of provisions against it in your contract (like 3 month notice or some such)? And where there no signals in your company that showed up that maybe this company has a bad attitude on labour policies?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the cost ends up hitting the workers. I wouldn&#039;t think that Coyote thinks he is paying out of pocket the matching SS and Medicare taxes. 

Unemployment is now just a 6 month perk of getting canned. I remember in Ohio about 17 years ago, when you got let go, you went down to the unemployment office, took a 4 hour class, met with a counselor and got an employment workbook. You then met monthly with the counselor who would copy your employment workbook to verify your employment activity.

Now everything is done online with a few yes or no questions. Nothing is verified.

The whole system sucks, but government gets to make the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the cost ends up hitting the workers. I wouldn&#8217;t think that Coyote thinks he is paying out of pocket the matching SS and Medicare taxes. </p>
<p>Unemployment is now just a 6 month perk of getting canned. I remember in Ohio about 17 years ago, when you got let go, you went down to the unemployment office, took a 4 hour class, met with a counselor and got an employment workbook. You then met monthly with the counselor who would copy your employment workbook to verify your employment activity.</p>
<p>Now everything is done online with a few yes or no questions. Nothing is verified.</p>
<p>The whole system sucks, but government gets to make the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coyote,

I understand your frustration.  However, your grasp of economics is to good to think that the cost of unemployment insurance is borne by any party other than labour.  Unemployment insurance is factored into every one of your hiring and firing decisions and how much you are willing to pay your employees.

There is no free lunch and it&#039;s pretty damn hard to make others pay for your lunch.  Labour enjoys the benefits of unemployment and pays for them dearly.  The only problem is that the benefits and costs are improperly distributed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coyote,</p>
<p>I understand your frustration.  However, your grasp of economics is to good to think that the cost of unemployment insurance is borne by any party other than labour.  Unemployment insurance is factored into every one of your hiring and firing decisions and how much you are willing to pay your employees.</p>
<p>There is no free lunch and it&#8217;s pretty damn hard to make others pay for your lunch.  Labour enjoys the benefits of unemployment and pays for them dearly.  The only problem is that the benefits and costs are improperly distributed.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had an employee that was hiding out during his work day to run his own landscaping business from his cell phone.  He was fired for that reason.  He applied for unemployment and it was granted.  The states reason was that we did not have a specific written policy against working other jobs while on our job.  They wouldn&#039;t listen to the fact that this presumes the fact that he already has another job and therefore shouldn&#039;t get the unemployment.  It just goes to show that it is virtually impossible to &quot;fire&quot; an employee in MA and that the unemployment system is nothing more that a business paid government subsidy for the lazy and deceitful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had an employee that was hiding out during his work day to run his own landscaping business from his cell phone.  He was fired for that reason.  He applied for unemployment and it was granted.  The states reason was that we did not have a specific written policy against working other jobs while on our job.  They wouldn&#8217;t listen to the fact that this presumes the fact that he already has another job and therefore shouldn&#8217;t get the unemployment.  It just goes to show that it is virtually impossible to &#8220;fire&#8221; an employee in MA and that the unemployment system is nothing more that a business paid government subsidy for the lazy and deceitful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing against you Coyote, but untill a few years ago I would have agreed with you entirely.  A few years ago I worked for a company that I thought was pretty good, until I get called into a meeting at 4:00 PM one day and am out the door with my belongings by 4:30 PM.  Nine people were let go that day.  Do you think that there was a coincidence that all nine of us would have been fully vested in the pension plan the next day?  That four of us were owed a cost savings bonus of almost $100,000 between us?  If I hadn&#039;t gotten a good job offer almost immediately, I would have been one of the people taking that paid vacation.  It would have been partial compensation for the $80,000+ that I got screwed out of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing against you Coyote, but untill a few years ago I would have agreed with you entirely.  A few years ago I worked for a company that I thought was pretty good, until I get called into a meeting at 4:00 PM one day and am out the door with my belongings by 4:30 PM.  Nine people were let go that day.  Do you think that there was a coincidence that all nine of us would have been fully vested in the pension plan the next day?  That four of us were owed a cost savings bonus of almost $100,000 between us?  If I hadn&#8217;t gotten a good job offer almost immediately, I would have been one of the people taking that paid vacation.  It would have been partial compensation for the $80,000+ that I got screwed out of.</p>
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