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	<title>Comments on: I Wondered Why They Weren&#8217;t Pounding the US</title>
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		<title>By: Bart Hall (Kansas, USA)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Hall (Kansas, USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We ought to step back a level or two. Is CO2 even a problem? If you look at absorptive spectra, CO2 absorbs only about 8% of the wavelength energy typical of a &quot;black body&quot; at 300 degrees Kelvin, or 80F, which is Earth&#039;s average temperature.

More to the point. Greenhouse production of ornamental plants is a major source of my income. Plants are happiest at about 1500 ppm CO2, and most greenhouse operators actually generate additional CO2 for their plants. Now -- big surprise -- the long term average CO2 concentration in our atmosphere has been about ... 1500 ppm ... four times current levels. By long-term I mean about 500 million years or so.

You&#039;ll find that the most vigorous scientific opposition to the whole concept of anthropogenic global warming comes from those of us trained in geology, astronomy, solar physics, and so on -- disciplines in which there is a significant focus on the fourth dimension: TIME.

The Arctic Ocean was basically a fresh-water lake until about 20 million years ago. Fifty million years ago it had crocodiles and cypress trees. Now, tel me I should be $#&#124;++ing my pants because of ice cover or ice thickness changes in the last 30 years.

More carbon. Less carbon. It really does not matter. The left, however, have their solution in search of a problem. It&#039;s always the same &#039;solution:&#039; higher taxes, greater regulation, transnational government, and income redistribution. That was their &#039;solution&#039; to hunger, to &#039;desertification,&#039; to poverty, to the status of women, and even to AIDS. 

When the AGW thing blows up on them, as it&#039;s doing now, they&#039;ll find some other &#039;problem&#039; requiring the same &#039;solution.&#039; The real issue is power elitism and the desire to control other peoples&#039; lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ought to step back a level or two. Is CO2 even a problem? If you look at absorptive spectra, CO2 absorbs only about 8% of the wavelength energy typical of a &#8220;black body&#8221; at 300 degrees Kelvin, or 80F, which is Earth&#8217;s average temperature.</p>
<p>More to the point. Greenhouse production of ornamental plants is a major source of my income. Plants are happiest at about 1500 ppm CO2, and most greenhouse operators actually generate additional CO2 for their plants. Now &#8212; big surprise &#8212; the long term average CO2 concentration in our atmosphere has been about &#8230; 1500 ppm &#8230; four times current levels. By long-term I mean about 500 million years or so.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find that the most vigorous scientific opposition to the whole concept of anthropogenic global warming comes from those of us trained in geology, astronomy, solar physics, and so on &#8212; disciplines in which there is a significant focus on the fourth dimension: TIME.</p>
<p>The Arctic Ocean was basically a fresh-water lake until about 20 million years ago. Fifty million years ago it had crocodiles and cypress trees. Now, tel me I should be $#|++ing my pants because of ice cover or ice thickness changes in the last 30 years.</p>
<p>More carbon. Less carbon. It really does not matter. The left, however, have their solution in search of a problem. It&#8217;s always the same &#8216;solution:&#8217; higher taxes, greater regulation, transnational government, and income redistribution. That was their &#8216;solution&#8217; to hunger, to &#8216;desertification,&#8217; to poverty, to the status of women, and even to AIDS. </p>
<p>When the AGW thing blows up on them, as it&#8217;s doing now, they&#8217;ll find some other &#8216;problem&#8217; requiring the same &#8216;solution.&#8217; The real issue is power elitism and the desire to control other peoples&#8217; lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely not; China, India, and a few other booming countries are obviously. I was wondering if you&#039;ve read &#039;The Economists View of the World&#039;? I think the author has a chapter on Cap &amp; Trade/environmental regulations... and if my memory serves me, he said carbon taxes or Cap&amp;Trade would be good ways (at least much better ways) to alleviate such problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely not; China, India, and a few other booming countries are obviously. I was wondering if you&#8217;ve read &#8216;The Economists View of the World&#8217;? I think the author has a chapter on Cap &amp; Trade/environmental regulations&#8230; and if my memory serves me, he said carbon taxes or Cap&amp;Trade would be good ways (at least much better ways) to alleviate such problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward B. Boyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward B. Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As often occurs, the actual data shows that the present CO2 flap is really a scam, created and manipulated as a way to make money and to get control of the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As often occurs, the actual data shows that the present CO2 flap is really a scam, created and manipulated as a way to make money and to get control of the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward B. Boyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward B. Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As often occurs, the actual data shows that the present CO2 flap is really a scam, created and manipulated as a way to make money and to get control of the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As often occurs, the actual data shows that the present CO2 flap is really a scam, created and manipulated as a way to make money and to get control of the economy.</p>
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