Comments on: Absurd Regulation

By: mahtso

mahtso — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:20:51 +0000

I think you are mistaken and there is no regulation with such a requirement (but if I am wrong please post the number of that regulation). ARS 32-1158.01 does set out requirements for a pool contract, but that does not require that the contractor get the money up-front but does allow a contractor to charge for construction in stages (up to 30% when the hole is dug; 30% when the shotcrete and plumbing are in; and 30% when the deck is in). All the statutes and rules can be found at azroc.gov.

By: Tom Moses

Tom Moses — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:48:13 +0000

Absurb yes, but there is another side. Once the gunite is sprayed on, you it is now your property whether you pay or not. Pool contractors can easily go out of business by not getting payed when the job is done esp by unscrupious (esp rich) people who will always find something wrong to avoid paying the final draft. A better way would be to escrow the money and have a qualified buiding inspector authorize the final payment when the pool is finished to spec..

By: DJB

DJB — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:44:00 +0000

It seems like an escrow would be the logical answer for this type of issue. I know it adds another middleman but it would give both parties some security. Why isn’t this the preferred method?

By: Chris Byrne

Chris Byrne — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:07:57 +0000

That rule was “intended” for commercial contracts, because a large number of developers were stiffing pool contractors.

The law of unintended consequences applies as always of course.

By: EvilRedScandi

EvilRedScandi — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:56:20 +0000

Don’t worry – I’m sure if you make enough noise and grease the right palms you can get a government bailout if your contractor can’t complete the work…

By: dreamin

dreamin — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:41:28 +0000

Why not just demand that they post a performance bond?

By: Mesa Econoguy

Mesa Econoguy — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:04:43 +0000

Good thing you don’t work in the financial markets.

Wait till Bawney Fwank gets his wishes to we-weguwate that industwy…

By: Dave Reid

Dave Reid — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:04:00 +0000

You are the master of your contract. Rather than contract with a pool company to perform a complete pool installation, you should contract with them to perform a series of tasks. Contract 1 is to dig the hole only for x amount of dollars. Then sign another contract in which they form the rebar frame for x amount of dollars. Then another contract to spray the gunite. etc etc etc. Payment may have to be made at each segment but you will be protected from any serious monetary harm.

By: John Moore

John Moore — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:59:49 +0000

Are you sure about that?

I had my pool redone last year and didn’t have to pay all up front. I live in PV, AZ.