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		<title>By: JimBob</title>
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		<description>How in the world do all you apparently smart and practical people, who go 4/5 of the way towards understanding this dynamic, come up with government and politicians as the root of the problem? Who do you think compels almost all high-schoolers to go to college and who ends up paying for much of it? How about parents - the same citizens who work in corporate jobs, teach in the schools, write the blogs and do all the other things that make this country what it is. 

Why in the world some of you blame Michelle Obama, or any other academic or political figure, for this system of entrenched expectations runs counter to the prevailing political sentiment I sense among you: personal responsibility and accountability. What I&#039;m hearing is that many of you loathe the government for trying to engineering social outcomes, and yet you&#039;re willing to give it far too much credit for an outcome you (the people) are roundly responsible for. WAKE UP or SHUT UP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How in the world do all you apparently smart and practical people, who go 4/5 of the way towards understanding this dynamic, come up with government and politicians as the root of the problem? Who do you think compels almost all high-schoolers to go to college and who ends up paying for much of it? How about parents &#8211; the same citizens who work in corporate jobs, teach in the schools, write the blogs and do all the other things that make this country what it is. </p>
<p>Why in the world some of you blame Michelle Obama, or any other academic or political figure, for this system of entrenched expectations runs counter to the prevailing political sentiment I sense among you: personal responsibility and accountability. What I&#8217;m hearing is that many of you loathe the government for trying to engineering social outcomes, and yet you&#8217;re willing to give it far too much credit for an outcome you (the people) are roundly responsible for. WAKE UP or SHUT UP.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a lot of really good points, but (as someone who sees first hand through her boyfriend, who is currently going back to get his bachelors because of the lack of opportunities he has currently) a college education is still worth something in the market. The average salary jump from high school graduate to college graduate is something like $40k - and many jobs won&#039;t even glance at your resume if you don&#039;t have a degree of some kind on there, no matter what your major was. At the very least, the degree shows you have some kind of motivation and intelligence, which a high school diploma is less and less an indicator of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a lot of really good points, but (as someone who sees first hand through her boyfriend, who is currently going back to get his bachelors because of the lack of opportunities he has currently) a college education is still worth something in the market. The average salary jump from high school graduate to college graduate is something like $40k &#8211; and many jobs won&#8217;t even glance at your resume if you don&#8217;t have a degree of some kind on there, no matter what your major was. At the very least, the degree shows you have some kind of motivation and intelligence, which a high school diploma is less and less an indicator of these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Wise</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is really off topic but when I saw home ownership and education together and then that the government supports these things the first thing that popped into my head was, what are the three things that government encourages us to pursue?  I would say it is  education, health care and home ownership.  But pushing these things with easy money to finance or make someone else pay for them does not make them affordable.  It actually makes these more expensive.  The cost of education rises at 3x inflation, medical care is 2.5x inflation and housing costs vastly exceeded the inflation rate until the bubble burst.  So consistant government promotion of certain things, increases their price and often puts them out of reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is really off topic but when I saw home ownership and education together and then that the government supports these things the first thing that popped into my head was, what are the three things that government encourages us to pursue?  I would say it is  education, health care and home ownership.  But pushing these things with easy money to finance or make someone else pay for them does not make them affordable.  It actually makes these more expensive.  The cost of education rises at 3x inflation, medical care is 2.5x inflation and housing costs vastly exceeded the inflation rate until the bubble burst.  So consistant government promotion of certain things, increases their price and often puts them out of reach.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a young Marine Officer, I was taught that Marines expected their officers to set the example.  Meaning, they expected them to set high standards in all things Marine such as physical fitness, personal appearance, personal conduct, technical profiency.  In essence, they expected leadership by example...I&#039;m not saying that our college students need to be Marine Officers but...How about graduating with some sense of leadership that will pay-off in civilian careers.  To your list, I would add some things like physical fitness, dress and personal conduct, verbal communication skills along with writing skills you mentioned, and of course a strong work ethic. These skills will pay dividends whether the grad goes into a business or technical environment. I&#039;m pretty sure these are more traditional skills that were expected of all graduates back in the days before we decided that everyone needed a college degree.  They are just as relevant today however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a young Marine Officer, I was taught that Marines expected their officers to set the example.  Meaning, they expected them to set high standards in all things Marine such as physical fitness, personal appearance, personal conduct, technical profiency.  In essence, they expected leadership by example&#8230;I&#8217;m not saying that our college students need to be Marine Officers but&#8230;How about graduating with some sense of leadership that will pay-off in civilian careers.  To your list, I would add some things like physical fitness, dress and personal conduct, verbal communication skills along with writing skills you mentioned, and of course a strong work ethic. These skills will pay dividends whether the grad goes into a business or technical environment. I&#8217;m pretty sure these are more traditional skills that were expected of all graduates back in the days before we decided that everyone needed a college degree.  They are just as relevant today however.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction...Michelle O was making around 100k per year and it was tripled to 316K per year when Barack was elected to the US Senate.  It&#039;s the Chicago Way!  Funny how all this is ignored by the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;Michelle O was making around 100k per year and it was tripled to 316K per year when Barack was elected to the US Senate.  It&#8217;s the Chicago Way!  Funny how all this is ignored by the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Obama was making something like 400k/year as a vice President of Community and External affairs at a Chicago hospital.  No, she&#039;s not corporate or interested in making money...She&#039;s just delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Obama was making something like 400k/year as a vice President of Community and External affairs at a Chicago hospital.  No, she&#8217;s not corporate or interested in making money&#8230;She&#8217;s just delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: SunSword</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunSword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You overlook a key point related to the 4 year degree. Way back when (30 years ago) the standard approach was to have job applicants take tests -- generally 2 categories (a) an &quot;IQ&quot; type test, and (b) a &quot;job skills&quot; type test. But. Then companies started getting sued because too many minorities were flunking the test and they were branded as racist. Thus, in defense, the companies started to use the 4 year college degree as a proxy for the test. Assumption was, if you could get a degree, you were both smart enough and trainable enough for the job. And the company couldn&#039;t get sued (successfully).

And that, friends, is the real driver for the 4 year degree. Companies want it on the resume as a hiring requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You overlook a key point related to the 4 year degree. Way back when (30 years ago) the standard approach was to have job applicants take tests &#8212; generally 2 categories (a) an &#8220;IQ&#8221; type test, and (b) a &#8220;job skills&#8221; type test. But. Then companies started getting sued because too many minorities were flunking the test and they were branded as racist. Thus, in defense, the companies started to use the 4 year college degree as a proxy for the test. Assumption was, if you could get a degree, you were both smart enough and trainable enough for the job. And the company couldn&#8217;t get sued (successfully).</p>
<p>And that, friends, is the real driver for the 4 year degree. Companies want it on the resume as a hiring requirement.</p>
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