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	<title>Comments on: Why Politicians Favor Cap and Trade over a Carbon Tax</title>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/10/why-politicians-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-14111</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As Lawrence said, the French have this right. Some parts of an economy can respond well to central planning. Electricity production is one. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The drawback is that the central planning must be done well. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t figure out how critics conclude that nuclear is so bad that they will spread any lie and falsify any number to stop it.  Around 500 reactors will be generating soon around the world. The US has about 100 generating 20% of our power. And the industry has been operating for fifty years.  The number of military reactors isn&#039;t precisely known.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The facts are pretty simple. The present reactors are going to be running a long time. The way to have a safer nuclear industry is to replace the oldest designs. Stopping all construction will just guarantee that the old plants will run far longer.     &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Lawrence said, the French have this right. Some parts of an economy can respond well to central planning. Electricity production is one. </p>
<p>The drawback is that the central planning must be done well. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out how critics conclude that nuclear is so bad that they will spread any lie and falsify any number to stop it.  Around 500 reactors will be generating soon around the world. The US has about 100 generating 20% of our power. And the industry has been operating for fifty years.  The number of military reactors isn&#8217;t precisely known.</p>
<p>The facts are pretty simple. The present reactors are going to be running a long time. The way to have a safer nuclear industry is to replace the oldest designs. Stopping all construction will just guarantee that the old plants will run far longer.     </p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/10/why-politicians-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-14110</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;McCain&#039;s proposal for 45 new nuclear plants starts looking a whole lot better in such a crazy cap-and-trade environment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only way to simulataneously decrease carbon output from electric utilities (assuming this is necessary) and not wreck the economy is to pump up the % of electricity production from nuclear plants now at 20% to like 60% or even 80%  -like France. France doesn&#039;t do much right in the economic area, but in electricity production the frogs are spot on.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s proposal for 45 new nuclear plants starts looking a whole lot better in such a crazy cap-and-trade environment.</p>
<p>The only way to simulataneously decrease carbon output from electric utilities (assuming this is necessary) and not wreck the economy is to pump up the % of electricity production from nuclear plants now at 20% to like 60% or even 80%  -like France. France doesn&#8217;t do much right in the economic area, but in electricity production the frogs are spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mesa Econoguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesa Econoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Janet Napolitano doesn&#039;t understand jack shit about anything, much less trading something she has no clue about hoping to understand some day in the future…&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet Napolitano doesn&#8217;t understand jack shit about anything, much less trading something she has no clue about hoping to understand some day in the future…</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To answer the original question:  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They prefer cap-and-trade because it is not called a tax. A carbon tax is called a tax.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cap and trade is simpler to administer and offers a totally new way to tell people what to do. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The writer has this right:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Silly rabbit, because public costs of cap-and-trade can be fudged, hidden, ignored, and, when they absolutely have to be recognized, blamed on private companies.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer the original question:  </p>
<p>They prefer cap-and-trade because it is not called a tax. A carbon tax is called a tax.</p>
<p>Cap and trade is simpler to administer and offers a totally new way to tell people what to do. </p>
<p>The writer has this right:</p>
<p>Silly rabbit, because public costs of cap-and-trade can be fudged, hidden, ignored, and, when they absolutely have to be recognized, blamed on private companies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Spruance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spruance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;If utilities raise prices, it&#039;s because they were not smart enough to figure out what we already know and they are just greedy capitalist pigs so blame them for the price increases, not use faithful public servants.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is exactly what happened in Germany. Politics tried to unload their part of responsibility for the rising energy costs on &quot;the greedy multinational companies&quot;. And, to tell you the truth, they came pretty far with that.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If utilities raise prices, it&#8217;s because they were not smart enough to figure out what we already know and they are just greedy capitalist pigs so blame them for the price increases, not use faithful public servants.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly what happened in Germany. Politics tried to unload their part of responsibility for the rising energy costs on &#8220;the greedy multinational companies&#8221;. And, to tell you the truth, they came pretty far with that.</p>
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		<title>By: tomw</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hope this shows.  Read this about nuclear power and the possibility that any will come on line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/6287.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; The governor has no idea.  The eco-philes have no idea.  The &quot;no carbon energy&quot; (BP?) who run the ads on FOX have no idea.&lt;br /&gt;
The infrastructure and absolute enormity of the cost to change it, or even the cost to keep up with demand are ignored by all of the above.&lt;br /&gt;
As they say, &quot;we is in trouble&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
tom&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope this shows.  Read this about nuclear power and the possibility that any will come on line.</p>
<p><a href="http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/6287.html" rel="nofollow">http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/6287.html</a></p>
<p> The governor has no idea.  The eco-philes have no idea.  The &#8220;no carbon energy&#8221; (BP?) who run the ads on FOX have no idea.<br />
The infrastructure and absolute enormity of the cost to change it, or even the cost to keep up with demand are ignored by all of the above.<br />
As they say, &#8220;we is in trouble&#8221;<br />
tom</p>
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		<title>By: gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How can an upstanding Libertarian blog seriously discuss the alternatives of Cap n Trade vs Carbon Tax?  Carbon dioxide is necessary for life and global warming is not a function of increases in this gas; rather, Sol&#039;s warming of the atmosphere creates an uptick in CO2.  Water vapor which comprises 23% of our atmosphere (while C02 is less than 0.4%) is far more likely to create a greenhouse effect. Shall we outlaw water?  Liberals and junk science for fun and profit!  Bah! &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can an upstanding Libertarian blog seriously discuss the alternatives of Cap n Trade vs Carbon Tax?  Carbon dioxide is necessary for life and global warming is not a function of increases in this gas; rather, Sol&#8217;s warming of the atmosphere creates an uptick in CO2.  Water vapor which comprises 23% of our atmosphere (while C02 is less than 0.4%) is far more likely to create a greenhouse effect. Shall we outlaw water?  Liberals and junk science for fun and profit!  Bah! </p>
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		<title>By: MK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sadly, given that federal carbon legislation is inevitable regardless of who wins in November, it may be time to give up hope and personally profit from it. Calpine Corporation (NYSE: CPN) owns a fleet of 60 natural gas-fired power plants and 17 geothermal power plants yet has been completely hammered in the current market.... just look at who&#039;s buying: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=CPN&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, given that federal carbon legislation is inevitable regardless of who wins in November, it may be time to give up hope and personally profit from it. Calpine Corporation (NYSE: CPN) owns a fleet of 60 natural gas-fired power plants and 17 geothermal power plants yet has been completely hammered in the current market&#8230;. just look at who&#8217;s buying: <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=CPN" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=CPN</a></p>
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		<title>By: nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So sad, so true. &quot;Money laundering for taxes&quot; is great—and of course the worst part is that the laundered tax dollars won&#039;t even end up available to provide government services once the initial carbon emission permits have been auctioned.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sad, so true. &#8220;Money laundering for taxes&#8221; is great—and of course the worst part is that the laundered tax dollars won&#8217;t even end up available to provide government services once the initial carbon emission permits have been auctioned.</p>
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