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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Part of the appeal to light rail would be as the city continues to sprawl, commmuters from a lot farther out of the city--like Huntley and beyond--could drive to a BIG parking lot...and head downtown.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chicago already has that -- it&#039;s called Metra (commuter rail).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Now this rail project would have to be a private venture (prospective operators bidding for the build-and-operate franchise)...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unless the prospective operator would also be financing such a project, it would not really be a &quot;private venture&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Part of the appeal to light rail would be as the city continues to sprawl, commmuters from a lot farther out of the city&#8211;like Huntley and beyond&#8211;could drive to a BIG parking lot&#8230;and head downtown.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Chicago already has that &#8212; it&#8217;s called Metra (commuter rail).</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Now this rail project would have to be a private venture (prospective operators bidding for the build-and-operate franchise)&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Unless the prospective operator would also be financing such a project, it would not really be a &#8220;private venture&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tribal elder</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/08/great-moments-i-9.html/comment-page-1#comment-13385</link>
		<dc:creator>tribal elder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;light rail between O&#039;Hare and Rockford &quot;-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Until telecommuting catches on big time, a lot of people will continue to travel downtown. Part of the appeal to light rail would be as the city continues to sprawl, commmuters from a lot farther out of the city--like Huntley and beyond--could drive to a BIG parking lot, board a train &#039;inbound&#039;, change to CTA trains at ORD and head downtown.  A long commute, but it would beat the expressways.   If the one or both airports closed, there&#039;d still be use for the rail line and parking lots.  This would, however, clobber the $36/day/park-at-the airport lots, and I&#039;m sure they are BIG campaign contributors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now this rail project would have to be a private venture (prospective operators bidding for the build-and-operate franchise), or we&#039;d end up with train operators union members trained in 4 weeks being higher priced than the pilots  -- oops -- I think CTA already has that except for the old-time airlines.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;light rail between O&#8217;Hare and Rockford &#8220;-</p>
<p>Until telecommuting catches on big time, a lot of people will continue to travel downtown. Part of the appeal to light rail would be as the city continues to sprawl, commmuters from a lot farther out of the city&#8211;like Huntley and beyond&#8211;could drive to a BIG parking lot, board a train &#8216;inbound&#8217;, change to CTA trains at ORD and head downtown.  A long commute, but it would beat the expressways.   If the one or both airports closed, there&#8217;d still be use for the rail line and parking lots.  This would, however, clobber the $36/day/park-at-the airport lots, and I&#8217;m sure they are BIG campaign contributors.</p>
<p>Now this rail project would have to be a private venture (prospective operators bidding for the build-and-operate franchise), or we&#8217;d end up with train operators union members trained in 4 weeks being higher priced than the pilots  &#8212; oops &#8212; I think CTA already has that except for the old-time airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a lifetime Chicagoan, I&#039;m used to political gimmicks (Millennium Park, additional runway at O&#039;Hare, third airport, casinos) being proposed and passed off as public service when they&#039;re mostly designed to line pocketbooks of contributors. However, until I read your posting, I thought an express line to O&#039;Hare sounded like a decent idea. I need to think about that again, obviously, if it really only saves 9 minutes. But my guess is, it would save more time than that. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are about 15 stations on the Blue Line to between downtown and the airport. Figuring a train stops for about a minute at each, I&#039;d guess it&#039;s at least a 15 minute savings on average. But maybe it&#039;s only 45 seconds at each, which would make it closer to 10 minutes - I&#039;ve never paid attention. Not sure if that extra time is worth all the billions, of course. It is a very slow ride going in from O&#039;Hare, there&#039;s no doubt, and I would have appreciated an express back when I used the line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I really like the idea of a light rail between O&#039;Hare and Rockford that someone here mentioned. However, I don&#039;t really see the point in investing in a future based on cheap air travel, because I don&#039;t believe that is our future. In the coming years, air travel will once again become a luxury, too expensive for the average Joe who wants to fly to Las Vegas for the weekend. When oil hits $200 a barrel, watch the airlines go out of business and/or raise fares to prohibitive levels. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifetime Chicagoan, I&#8217;m used to political gimmicks (Millennium Park, additional runway at O&#8217;Hare, third airport, casinos) being proposed and passed off as public service when they&#8217;re mostly designed to line pocketbooks of contributors. However, until I read your posting, I thought an express line to O&#8217;Hare sounded like a decent idea. I need to think about that again, obviously, if it really only saves 9 minutes. But my guess is, it would save more time than that. </p>
<p>There are about 15 stations on the Blue Line to between downtown and the airport. Figuring a train stops for about a minute at each, I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s at least a 15 minute savings on average. But maybe it&#8217;s only 45 seconds at each, which would make it closer to 10 minutes &#8211; I&#8217;ve never paid attention. Not sure if that extra time is worth all the billions, of course. It is a very slow ride going in from O&#8217;Hare, there&#8217;s no doubt, and I would have appreciated an express back when I used the line.</p>
<p>I really like the idea of a light rail between O&#8217;Hare and Rockford that someone here mentioned. However, I don&#8217;t really see the point in investing in a future based on cheap air travel, because I don&#8217;t believe that is our future. In the coming years, air travel will once again become a luxury, too expensive for the average Joe who wants to fly to Las Vegas for the weekend. When oil hits $200 a barrel, watch the airlines go out of business and/or raise fares to prohibitive levels. </p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;If you think that&#039;s funny, you should read the story about how we shafted our down-river neighbors all the way to the Mississippi when we reversed the Chicago river.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s more forceful if you refer to them as our &quot;formerly up-river neighbors&quot;...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chicago is one of my favorite cities, having grown up just *outside* of it.  But I know I wouldn&#039;t want to live in Cook County.  I&#039;m here in California, which is an area that sometimes seems sane compared to Chi-Town.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;If you think that&#8217;s funny, you should read the story about how we shafted our down-river neighbors all the way to the Mississippi when we reversed the Chicago river.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s more forceful if you refer to them as our &#8220;formerly up-river neighbors&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Chicago is one of my favorite cities, having grown up just *outside* of it.  But I know I wouldn&#8217;t want to live in Cook County.  I&#8217;m here in California, which is an area that sometimes seems sane compared to Chi-Town.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Expect lots of desperate measures from Chicago as they try to land the Olympic games.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: clouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>clouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Expanding on Timâ€™s comment:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Governor Blagojevich also has his name on bunch of stuff too, such as the toll ways.  It reminds me of the Mao Zedong picture over the Forbidden City&#039;s gate I keep seeing during the Olympic coverage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expanding on Timâ€™s comment:</p>
<p>Governor Blagojevich also has his name on bunch of stuff too, such as the toll ways.  It reminds me of the Mao Zedong picture over the Forbidden City&#8217;s gate I keep seeing during the Olympic coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Tribal Elder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribal Elder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The &#039;third airport&#039; talk in Illinois is a fight between Jesse Jr. and Daley.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Chicago needed more airport capacity, why close Meigs ?  If chicago needed airport capacity, just expand Rockford and link it to Chicago with (please pardon me) light rail, with BIG parking lots and service Rockford to ORD, with a train change at ORD for Chicago ? The rights-of-way are in sort-of public hands (Tollway), the airport in Rockford owns adjacent land (No further condemnation/eminent domain).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But it&#039;s not about flight capacity-it&#039;s about building the airport with FAA airport trust fund bucks on a 9:1 match, and passing contract out to the connected.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If there was a federal 9:1 match to build pyramids, Chicago would look like Giza.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;third airport&#8217; talk in Illinois is a fight between Jesse Jr. and Daley.  </p>
<p>If Chicago needed more airport capacity, why close Meigs ?  If chicago needed airport capacity, just expand Rockford and link it to Chicago with (please pardon me) light rail, with BIG parking lots and service Rockford to ORD, with a train change at ORD for Chicago ? The rights-of-way are in sort-of public hands (Tollway), the airport in Rockford owns adjacent land (No further condemnation/eminent domain).</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not about flight capacity-it&#8217;s about building the airport with FAA airport trust fund bucks on a 9:1 match, and passing contract out to the connected.  </p>
<p>If there was a federal 9:1 match to build pyramids, Chicago would look like Giza.</p>
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		<title>By: tribal elder</title>
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		<dc:creator>tribal elder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By way of history, Chicago did not annex some highway median to make the City adjacent to O&#039;Hare-that would be too simple.  I have joked it was the white stripe down Irving Park Road. But, looking at the zoning maps, the connection is a strip annexed through a Cook County forest preserve- not the whole preserve, just a slim strip, through the woods and accross the Des Plaines River at a point where there is not even a hiker&#039;s bridge.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By way of history, Chicago did not annex some highway median to make the City adjacent to O&#8217;Hare-that would be too simple.  I have joked it was the white stripe down Irving Park Road. But, looking at the zoning maps, the connection is a strip annexed through a Cook County forest preserve- not the whole preserve, just a slim strip, through the woods and accross the Des Plaines River at a point where there is not even a hiker&#8217;s bridge.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We were in Chicago a few weeks ago, and spent some time at Millennium Park.  It is pretty cool; though I&#039;m  glad I don&#039;t have to fund it by living in Chicago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The inscribed dedication on the stone pedestal commemorating the founding of the park told me all I need to know about Daley.  Something about the park being &quot;built by Mayor Daley as a gift to the people of Chicago&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were in Chicago a few weeks ago, and spent some time at Millennium Park.  It is pretty cool; though I&#8217;m  glad I don&#8217;t have to fund it by living in Chicago.</p>
<p>The inscribed dedication on the stone pedestal commemorating the founding of the park told me all I need to know about Daley.  Something about the park being &#8220;built by Mayor Daley as a gift to the people of Chicago&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Corky Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corky Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chicago just raised their sales tax by 1% to 10.75%, the top rate in the nation.  Gasoline taxes are at he top also.  Corrupt Cook County (add to  that a corrupt governor) and you have the recipe for politicians doing well and constituents paying for it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How many ward heelers will get jobs with the expanded rail line?  That&#039;s what it&#039;s there for, not the 9 minutes.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicago just raised their sales tax by 1% to 10.75%, the top rate in the nation.  Gasoline taxes are at he top also.  Corrupt Cook County (add to  that a corrupt governor) and you have the recipe for politicians doing well and constituents paying for it.</p>
<p>How many ward heelers will get jobs with the expanded rail line?  That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s there for, not the 9 minutes.</p>
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