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		<title>By: Dr. T</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/these-are-train.html/comment-page-1#comment-11107</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, Tomas, &quot;a political scientist with standards&quot; is an oxymoronic phrase. There is no science in political science (data analysis and statistics do not count as science). The field is filled with fools who can&#039;t reason their way through simple problems and are lost in the complexities of citizen-governance interfaces and interactions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many years ago, I had a full scholarship at a graduate political science program. I withdrew after seven weeks because the professors were dolts and the journals and textbooks were packed with polysyllabic verbiage that actually said nothing. I was unsurprised to learn that quite of few of the Duke 88 were PolSci faculty. The Duke 88&#039;s combination of illogic, bias, bigotry, absurd recommendations, and claims of victimhood and persecution were exactly what I expect of PolSci and Sociology &quot;experts.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Tomas, &#8220;a political scientist with standards&#8221; is an oxymoronic phrase. There is no science in political science (data analysis and statistics do not count as science). The field is filled with fools who can&#8217;t reason their way through simple problems and are lost in the complexities of citizen-governance interfaces and interactions.</p>
<p>Many years ago, I had a full scholarship at a graduate political science program. I withdrew after seven weeks because the professors were dolts and the journals and textbooks were packed with polysyllabic verbiage that actually said nothing. I was unsurprised to learn that quite of few of the Duke 88 were PolSci faculty. The Duke 88&#8217;s combination of illogic, bias, bigotry, absurd recommendations, and claims of victimhood and persecution were exactly what I expect of PolSci and Sociology &#8220;experts.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/these-are-train.html/comment-page-1#comment-11106</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t taint all of social science with this crap--some of us actually do have standards. One might even go so far as to suggest that is the emergence standards in mainstream social science that is at the base of the emergence of the pomo programs. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a political scientist with standards&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t taint all of social science with this crap&#8211;some of us actually do have standards. One might even go so far as to suggest that is the emergence standards in mainstream social science that is at the base of the emergence of the pomo programs. </p>
<p>a political scientist with standards</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Instead, administrators, like the bloggers themselves, operated under the assumption that everyone was an expert on matters of race and gender&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hate to come across as arrogant, but I consider MYSELF an expert on race and gender.  You see, all my life I&#039;ve been a member of a race and a member of a gender.  In fact, I have numerous family members and friends who all happen to be a race or gender, some even different from mine.  I&#039;ll go even further and state that I&#039;m somewhat of an expert on differing age groups as well!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not something I merely studied for a brief period of time while pursuing various degrees, but comes from decades of personal immersion in the subject matter.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead, administrators, like the bloggers themselves, operated under the assumption that everyone was an expert on matters of race and gender&#8221;</p>
<p>I hate to come across as arrogant, but I consider MYSELF an expert on race and gender.  You see, all my life I&#8217;ve been a member of a race and a member of a gender.  In fact, I have numerous family members and friends who all happen to be a race or gender, some even different from mine.  I&#8217;ll go even further and state that I&#8217;m somewhat of an expert on differing age groups as well!</p>
<p>This is not something I merely studied for a brief period of time while pursuing various degrees, but comes from decades of personal immersion in the subject matter.</p>
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		<title>By: dave smith</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/these-are-train.html/comment-page-1#comment-11104</link>
		<dc:creator>dave smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;These guys do have a point, &quot;expert&quot; opinion should matter.  I wonder if they would apply the same theory on English professors discussing tax policy?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What their problem is that they are really not &quot;experts&quot; about anything, and no one really cares what they might think.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys do have a point, &#8220;expert&#8221; opinion should matter.  I wonder if they would apply the same theory on English professors discussing tax policy?</p>
<p>What their problem is that they are really not &#8220;experts&#8221; about anything, and no one really cares what they might think.  </p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/these-are-train.html/comment-page-1#comment-11103</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Some faculty thus found themselves in the unenviable position of being the targets of public discourse (and disparaged for their expertise on race and gender) without being legitimate participants in it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s funny is that this is basically a dressed-up whine about not being taken seriously, but rather than wonder for even a moment why the &#039;public discourse&#039; might give short shrift to their opinions these guys insist on casting themselves as victims of &#039;administrators&#039; and other figures of authority. Of course when you have tenure your actual degree of victimization is pretty constrained. I guess once your position and salary are guaranteed you can still cry about &#039;extreme marginalization&#039; (i.e. people laughing at your fool opinions), since you really don&#039;t have much else to hang your victim status on...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Some faculty thus found themselves in the unenviable position of being the targets of public discourse (and disparaged for their expertise on race and gender) without being legitimate participants in it.</i></p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny is that this is basically a dressed-up whine about not being taken seriously, but rather than wonder for even a moment why the &#8216;public discourse&#8217; might give short shrift to their opinions these guys insist on casting themselves as victims of &#8216;administrators&#8217; and other figures of authority. Of course when you have tenure your actual degree of victimization is pretty constrained. I guess once your position and salary are guaranteed you can still cry about &#8216;extreme marginalization&#8217; (i.e. people laughing at your fool opinions), since you really don&#8217;t have much else to hang your victim status on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/these-are-train.html/comment-page-1#comment-11102</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Some faculty thus found themselves in the unenviable position of being the targets of public discourse (and disparaged for their expertise on race and gender) without being legitimate participants in it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s funny is that this is basically a dressed-up whine about not being taken seriously, but rather than wonder for even a moment why the &#039;public discourse&#039; might give short shrift to their opinions these guys insist on casting themselves as victims of &#039;administrators&#039; and other figures of authority. Of course when you have tenure your actual degree of victimization is pretty constrained. I guess once your position and salary are guaranteed you can still cry about &#039;extreme marginalization&#039; (i.e. people laughing at your fool opinions), since you really don&#039;t have much else to hang your victim status on...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Some faculty thus found themselves in the unenviable position of being the targets of public discourse (and disparaged for their expertise on race and gender) without being legitimate participants in it.</i></p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny is that this is basically a dressed-up whine about not being taken seriously, but rather than wonder for even a moment why the &#8216;public discourse&#8217; might give short shrift to their opinions these guys insist on casting themselves as victims of &#8216;administrators&#8217; and other figures of authority. Of course when you have tenure your actual degree of victimization is pretty constrained. I guess once your position and salary are guaranteed you can still cry about &#8216;extreme marginalization&#8217; (i.e. people laughing at your fool opinions), since you really don&#8217;t have much else to hang your victim status on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;while actually existing academic expertise was recast as either bias or a commitment to preconceived notions about the legal case.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Uh, it&#039;s really simple.  You have to have a certain amount of evidence to take someone to trial on criminal charges.  A shaky story by a shady character, lack of physical evidence, and a denial by another witness is not the kind of evidence I want to be able to bind someone over for trial, regardless of their race.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Those stupid judges and their &quot;preconceived notions&quot; about criminal procedure.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;while actually existing academic expertise was recast as either bias or a commitment to preconceived notions about the legal case.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, it&#8217;s really simple.  You have to have a certain amount of evidence to take someone to trial on criminal charges.  A shaky story by a shady character, lack of physical evidence, and a denial by another witness is not the kind of evidence I want to be able to bind someone over for trial, regardless of their race.</p>
<p>Those stupid judges and their &#8220;preconceived notions&#8221; about criminal procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: delurking</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/these-are-train.html/comment-page-1#comment-11100</link>
		<dc:creator>delurking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It appeared in Social Text, the same academic journal which swallowed Sokal&#039;s hoax hook, line, and sinker.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appeared in Social Text, the same academic journal which swallowed Sokal&#8217;s hoax hook, line, and sinker.  </p>
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