Comments on: Our Fault? Who, Us? http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html Dispatches from a Small Business Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brant David McLaughlin http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html/comment-page-1#comment-11032 Brant David McLaughlin Sat, 10 May 2008 20:42:19 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html#comment-11032 <p>Amen, John Moore! </p> <p>Even worse, it's simply nothing other than STUPID to burn your food to power your car. </p> <p>Ethanol never has and never shall make any sense whatsoever environmentally, economically, or to anyone with a brain. The evidence against it is overwhelming and there's no need to restate it here, as anyone who wants to can very easily find out the truth that I just elucidated.</p> Amen, John Moore!

Even worse, it’s simply nothing other than STUPID to burn your food to power your car.

Ethanol never has and never shall make any sense whatsoever environmentally, economically, or to anyone with a brain. The evidence against it is overwhelming and there’s no need to restate it here, as anyone who wants to can very easily find out the truth that I just elucidated.

]]> By: EconStudent http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html/comment-page-1#comment-11031 EconStudent Tue, 06 May 2008 16:53:12 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html#comment-11031 <p>I am by no means an expert on the matter, but I would like to see the relationship between that lowering in gasoline prices and the amount of money from my taxes that are sent to subsidize ethanol and the increased amount I am paying for food. If it wasn't subsidized, and my food prices were lower and my taxes were lower, the slight increase in gasoline prices (in the Rocky Mountain Region) might be more utility for me. Just a thought, though I don't have numbers at this time to say it is or isn't true.</p> I am by no means an expert on the matter, but I would like to see the relationship between that lowering in gasoline prices and the amount of money from my taxes that are sent to subsidize ethanol and the increased amount I am paying for food. If it wasn’t subsidized, and my food prices were lower and my taxes were lower, the slight increase in gasoline prices (in the Rocky Mountain Region) might be more utility for me. Just a thought, though I don’t have numbers at this time to say it is or isn’t true.

]]> By: John Moore http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html/comment-page-1#comment-11030 John Moore Tue, 06 May 2008 04:33:28 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html#comment-11030 <p>Kum,<br /> Your numbers look just fine in isolation. But they don't refute his claims in the slightest. The study doesn't discount for the subsidies and other costs of the ethanol production, so it is not a reasonable comparison.</p> <p>By now, everyone that has looked at the issue realizes that corn ethanol is a cruel joke. A friend of mine making plenty of money off his Iowa corn crop thinks the program ought to be killed. For that matter, at current corn prices, it is not profitable to produce ethanol even with the subsidies! That should give you a clue - the market is sending signals about what it really costs to produce that ethanol.</p> Kum,
Your numbers look just fine in isolation. But they don’t refute his claims in the slightest. The study doesn’t discount for the subsidies and other costs of the ethanol production, so it is not a reasonable comparison.

By now, everyone that has looked at the issue realizes that corn ethanol is a cruel joke. A friend of mine making plenty of money off his Iowa corn crop thinks the program ought to be killed. For that matter, at current corn prices, it is not profitable to produce ethanol even with the subsidies! That should give you a clue – the market is sending signals about what it really costs to produce that ethanol.

]]> By: Kum Dollison http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html/comment-page-1#comment-11029 Kum Dollison Mon, 05 May 2008 22:20:57 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2008/05/our-fault-who-u.html#comment-11029 <p><i>(it takes more energy to produce from corn than it provides) </i></p> <p>I don't get it. You write a <i>Science</i> blog, "Climate Skeptic;" and, yet, you post unsubstantiated claims on a subject in which you have obviously done no serious research. </p> <p>I know you worked a couple of years in the Oil Industry; but, Dang.</p> <p>On the other hand, you operate a business that's dependent upon people travelling; and you ignore studies such as the one from Iowa State University that states that gasoline is selling for anywhere from $0.29 to $0.40 less a gallon as a result of the 550,000 Barrels of Ethanol being produced, daily.</p> <p>http://www.card.iastate.edu/publications/DBS/PDFFiles/08wp467.pdf</p> <p>Like I said, "I just don't get it."</p> (it takes more energy to produce from corn than it provides)

I don’t get it. You write a Science blog, “Climate Skeptic;” and, yet, you post unsubstantiated claims on a subject in which you have obviously done no serious research.

I know you worked a couple of years in the Oil Industry; but, Dang.

On the other hand, you operate a business that’s dependent upon people travelling; and you ignore studies such as the one from Iowa State University that states that gasoline is selling for anywhere from $0.29 to $0.40 less a gallon as a result of the 550,000 Barrels of Ethanol being produced, daily.

http://www.card.iastate.edu/publications/DBS/PDFFiles/08wp467.pdf

Like I said, “I just don’t get it.”

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