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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately the way they ask questions in polls can dramatically change the results.  I got a call last night and went through a poll for the first time in years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First question:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are you extremely worried, very worried, worried, not so worried, not at all worried that a hurricane will hit your area this year?  (I live in South Florida).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I asked if they wanted to know if I was &quot;worried&quot; about hurricanes or if they wanted to know my feelings towards the probability of a hit.  I am not at all worried but do believe the probability is there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;She responded by repeating the question verbatim - &quot;I am sorry sir, I can only ask the question as written&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish I knew how they interpeted my answer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This went on for 20 minutes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the bright side she probably put me on some type of do-not-survey list.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the way they ask questions in polls can dramatically change the results.  I got a call last night and went through a poll for the first time in years.</p>
<p>First question:</p>
<p>Are you extremely worried, very worried, worried, not so worried, not at all worried that a hurricane will hit your area this year?  (I live in South Florida).</p>
<p>I asked if they wanted to know if I was &#8220;worried&#8221; about hurricanes or if they wanted to know my feelings towards the probability of a hit.  I am not at all worried but do believe the probability is there.</p>
<p>She responded by repeating the question verbatim &#8211; &#8220;I am sorry sir, I can only ask the question as written&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wish I knew how they interpeted my answer.</p>
<p>This went on for 20 minutes.</p>
<p>On the bright side she probably put me on some type of do-not-survey list.</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IBD 2/24/06:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;In a tape dating to April 1995, Saddam and several aides discuss the fact that U.N. inspectors had found traces of Iraq&#039;s biological weapons program. On the tape, Hussein Kamel, Saddam&#039;s son-in-law, is heard gloating about fooling the inspectors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We did not reveal all that we have,&quot; he says. &quot;Not the type of weapons, not the volume of the materials we imported, not the volume of the production we told them about, not the volume of use. None of this was correct.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s more. Indeed, as late as 2000, Saddam can be heard in his office talking with Iraqi scientists about his ongoing plans to build a nuclear device. At one point, he discusses Iraq&#039;s plasma uranium program something that was missed entirely by U.N. weapons inspectors combing Iraq for WMD.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is particularly troubling, since it indicates an active, ongoing attempt by Saddam to build an Iraqi nuclear bomb.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;What was most disturbing,&quot; said John Tierney, the ex- FBI agent who translated the tapes, &quot;was the fact that the individuals briefing Saddam were totally unknown to the U.N. Special Commission (or UNSCOM, the group set up to look into Iraq&#039;s WMD programs).&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps most chillingly, the tapes record Iraq Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz talking about how easy it would be to set off a WMD in Washington. The comments come shortly after Saddam muses about using &quot;proxies&quot; in a terror attack.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&amp;artnum=1&amp;issue=20060224&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBD 2/24/06:</p>
<p>&#8220;In a tape dating to April 1995, Saddam and several aides discuss the fact that U.N. inspectors had found traces of Iraq&#8217;s biological weapons program. On the tape, Hussein Kamel, Saddam&#8217;s son-in-law, is heard gloating about fooling the inspectors.</p>
<p>&#8220;We did not reveal all that we have,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Not the type of weapons, not the volume of the materials we imported, not the volume of the production we told them about, not the volume of use. None of this was correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more. Indeed, as late as 2000, Saddam can be heard in his office talking with Iraqi scientists about his ongoing plans to build a nuclear device. At one point, he discusses Iraq&#8217;s plasma uranium program something that was missed entirely by U.N. weapons inspectors combing Iraq for WMD.</p>
<p>This is particularly troubling, since it indicates an active, ongoing attempt by Saddam to build an Iraqi nuclear bomb.</p>
<p>&#8220;What was most disturbing,&#8221; said John Tierney, the ex- FBI agent who translated the tapes, &#8220;was the fact that the individuals briefing Saddam were totally unknown to the U.N. Special Commission (or UNSCOM, the group set up to look into Iraq&#8217;s WMD programs).&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps most chillingly, the tapes record Iraq Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz talking about how easy it would be to set off a WMD in Washington. The comments come shortly after Saddam muses about using &#8220;proxies&#8221; in a terror attack.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&#038;artnum=1&#038;issue=20060224" rel="nofollow">http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&#038;artnum=1&#038;issue=20060224</a></p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/05/myth-of-the-any.html/comment-page-1#comment-11505</link>
		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What people mean by the WMD answer is unclear.  Saddam indisputably had WMD at an earlier date.  Also, some of those were found after 2003.  If that is what is meant, then the WMD believers should number closer to 100%.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, what we discovered was so much less than what was predicted as to make the &quot;we didn&#039;t find any&quot; belief roughly accurate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other, other hand, we found lots of very nasty stuff, including forbidden missile-delivery systems, chemical components, and programs.  Additionally, we found that records had been destroyed.  On that score, someone could legitimately say &quot;we didn&#039;t find gold, but we found silver,&quot; and answer the WMD question in the affirmative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I would be among the 30% saying &quot;yes, we found WMD&quot; on a yes-no poll question, though I would qualify that answer in a discussion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To the main point, people also believe contradictory things, mostly because they don&#039;t think about them very hard.  There are creationists proud of their children&#039;s knowledge of dinosaurs, and  folks who believe different things about global warming in different contexts.  Snapshot questions only suggest what group beliefs are.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people mean by the WMD answer is unclear.  Saddam indisputably had WMD at an earlier date.  Also, some of those were found after 2003.  If that is what is meant, then the WMD believers should number closer to 100%.</p>
<p>However, what we discovered was so much less than what was predicted as to make the &#8220;we didn&#8217;t find any&#8221; belief roughly accurate.</p>
<p>On the other, other hand, we found lots of very nasty stuff, including forbidden missile-delivery systems, chemical components, and programs.  Additionally, we found that records had been destroyed.  On that score, someone could legitimately say &#8220;we didn&#8217;t find gold, but we found silver,&#8221; and answer the WMD question in the affirmative.</p>
<p>So I would be among the 30% saying &#8220;yes, we found WMD&#8221; on a yes-no poll question, though I would qualify that answer in a discussion.</p>
<p>To the main point, people also believe contradictory things, mostly because they don&#8217;t think about them very hard.  There are creationists proud of their children&#8217;s knowledge of dinosaurs, and  folks who believe different things about global warming in different contexts.  Snapshot questions only suggest what group beliefs are.</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What people mean by the WMD answer is unclear.  Saddam indisputably had WMD at an earlier date.  Also, some of those were found after 2003.  If that is what is meant, then the WMD believers should number closer to 100%.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, what we discovered was so much less than what was predicted as to make the &quot;we didn&#039;t find any&quot; belief roughly accurate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other, other hand, we found lots of very nasty stuff, including forbidden missile-delivery systems, chemical components, and programs.  Additionally, we found that records had been destroyed.  On that score, someone could legitimately say &quot;we didn&#039;t find gold, but we found silver,&quot; and answer the WMD question in the affirmative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I would be among the 30% saying &quot;yes, we found WMD&quot; on a yes-no poll question, though I would qualify that answer in a discussion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To the main point, people also believe contradictory things, mostly because they don&#039;t think about them very hard.  There are creationists proud of their children&#039;s knowledge of dinosaurs, and  folks who believe different things about global warming in different contexts.  Snapshot questions only suggest what group beliefs are.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people mean by the WMD answer is unclear.  Saddam indisputably had WMD at an earlier date.  Also, some of those were found after 2003.  If that is what is meant, then the WMD believers should number closer to 100%.</p>
<p>However, what we discovered was so much less than what was predicted as to make the &#8220;we didn&#8217;t find any&#8221; belief roughly accurate.</p>
<p>On the other, other hand, we found lots of very nasty stuff, including forbidden missile-delivery systems, chemical components, and programs.  Additionally, we found that records had been destroyed.  On that score, someone could legitimately say &#8220;we didn&#8217;t find gold, but we found silver,&#8221; and answer the WMD question in the affirmative.</p>
<p>So I would be among the 30% saying &#8220;yes, we found WMD&#8221; on a yes-no poll question, though I would qualify that answer in a discussion.</p>
<p>To the main point, people also believe contradictory things, mostly because they don&#8217;t think about them very hard.  There are creationists proud of their children&#8217;s knowledge of dinosaurs, and  folks who believe different things about global warming in different contexts.  Snapshot questions only suggest what group beliefs are.</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What people mean by the WMD answer is unclear.  Saddam indisputably had WMD at an earlier date.  Also, some of those were found after 2003.  If that is what is meant, then the WMD believers should number closer to 100%.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, what we discovered was so much less than what was predicted as to make the &quot;we didn&#039;t find any&quot; belief roughly accurate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other, other hand, we found lots of very nasty stuff, including forbidden missile-delivery systems, chemical components, and programs.  Additionally, we found that records had been destroyed.  On that score, someone could legitimately say &quot;we didn&#039;t find gold, but we found silver,&quot; and answer the WMD question in the affirmative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I would be among the 30% saying &quot;yes, we found WMD&quot; on a yes-no poll question, though I would qualify that answer in a discussion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To the main point, people also believe contradictory things, mostly because they don&#039;t think about them very hard.  There are creationists proud of their children&#039;s knowledge of dinosaurs, and  folks who believe different things about global warming in different contexts.  Snapshot questions only suggest what group beliefs are.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people mean by the WMD answer is unclear.  Saddam indisputably had WMD at an earlier date.  Also, some of those were found after 2003.  If that is what is meant, then the WMD believers should number closer to 100%.</p>
<p>However, what we discovered was so much less than what was predicted as to make the &#8220;we didn&#8217;t find any&#8221; belief roughly accurate.</p>
<p>On the other, other hand, we found lots of very nasty stuff, including forbidden missile-delivery systems, chemical components, and programs.  Additionally, we found that records had been destroyed.  On that score, someone could legitimately say &#8220;we didn&#8217;t find gold, but we found silver,&#8221; and answer the WMD question in the affirmative.</p>
<p>So I would be among the 30% saying &#8220;yes, we found WMD&#8221; on a yes-no poll question, though I would qualify that answer in a discussion.</p>
<p>To the main point, people also believe contradictory things, mostly because they don&#8217;t think about them very hard.  There are creationists proud of their children&#8217;s knowledge of dinosaurs, and  folks who believe different things about global warming in different contexts.  Snapshot questions only suggest what group beliefs are.</p>
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		<title>By: Bram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sure most people believe that earth is warming, despite the fact that it has been cooling since 1998.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Ray G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apparently Josh was in on that particular poll since he was able to so quickly edit and clarify the poll question concerning the WMD. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact that the number is only 30% is surprising. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is the known pattern of people being polled telling pollsters what they think they want to hear. People tend to be overly PC so as to appear more urbane or &quot;compassionate.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 30% number also seems less credible even in light of the responses given here. I didn&#039;t see anyone arguing for President Bush&#039;s prior knowledge of 9/11 or that the sun orbits earth. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Josh was in on that particular poll since he was able to so quickly edit and clarify the poll question concerning the WMD. </p>
<p>The fact that the number is only 30% is surprising. </p>
<p>There is the known pattern of people being polled telling pollsters what they think they want to hear. People tend to be overly PC so as to appear more urbane or &#8220;compassionate.&#8221; </p>
<p>The 30% number also seems less credible even in light of the responses given here. I didn&#8217;t see anyone arguing for President Bush&#8217;s prior knowledge of 9/11 or that the sun orbits earth. </p>
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		<title>By: Dr. T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gee, Dan, imagine that: terrorists don&#039;t attack a country whose dictator supports most of the terrorist&#039;s goals and who provides them with secure training bases. That becomes a reason for us to &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; depose Saddam Hussein. I think the premise of your logic is flawed. I also think your belief that we could have just bumped off Hussein and replaced him with a &#039;benign&#039; dictator is both naive and misguided. We tried that a number of times in Central and South America (and Cuba) with disastrous results.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The President&#039;s idea of replacing Saddam Hussein&#039;s thugocracy with a democracy that could be a model for other terrorist-producing countries to strive for was a good one. Poor planning and poor implementation have delayed this process. Electing a Democratic president will end that process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, but not in large quantities. Since our invasion was telegraphed months in advance, the Iraqi military had time to truck the weapons to depots in Syria. We just haven&#039;t had the nerve to find and destroy them, just as we haven&#039;t had the nerve to find and destroy the terrorist bases in Iran (where most of the terrorists now in Iraq come from).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Dan, imagine that: terrorists don&#8217;t attack a country whose dictator supports most of the terrorist&#8217;s goals and who provides them with secure training bases. That becomes a reason for us to <i>not</i> depose Saddam Hussein. I think the premise of your logic is flawed. I also think your belief that we could have just bumped off Hussein and replaced him with a &#8216;benign&#8217; dictator is both naive and misguided. We tried that a number of times in Central and South America (and Cuba) with disastrous results.</p>
<p>The President&#8217;s idea of replacing Saddam Hussein&#8217;s thugocracy with a democracy that could be a model for other terrorist-producing countries to strive for was a good one. Poor planning and poor implementation have delayed this process. Electing a Democratic president will end that process.</p>
<p>Chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, but not in large quantities. Since our invasion was telegraphed months in advance, the Iraqi military had time to truck the weapons to depots in Syria. We just haven&#8217;t had the nerve to find and destroy them, just as we haven&#8217;t had the nerve to find and destroy the terrorist bases in Iran (where most of the terrorists now in Iraq come from).</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;My theory is that when people are given stupid poll questions, they start jerking around with the pollster.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Back in high school we took anonymous multiple choice surveys on drug use.  For a brief moment I become a pot smoking, heroine addict that shot up more than 5 times a week.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;it is a well established fact that 78% of statistics are overstated.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the laugh.  Also, don&#039;t forget that one should never make broad generalizations.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My theory is that when people are given stupid poll questions, they start jerking around with the pollster.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back in high school we took anonymous multiple choice surveys on drug use.  For a brief moment I become a pot smoking, heroine addict that shot up more than 5 times a week.</p>
<p>&#8220;it is a well established fact that 78% of statistics are overstated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the laugh.  Also, don&#8217;t forget that one should never make broad generalizations.</p>
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		<title>By: skh.pcola</title>
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		<dc:creator>skh.pcola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;...inspections, which seemed to be working quite well.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not according to the 14+ resolutions passed by the UN.  Unless by &quot;well&quot; you actually meant &quot;not at all.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;inspections, which seemed to be working quite well.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not according to the 14+ resolutions passed by the UN.  Unless by &#8220;well&#8221; you actually meant &#8220;not at all.&#8221;</p>
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