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		<title>By: John Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/04/thanks-governme.html/comment-page-1#comment-10541</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey- check out this website for that pesky garage door problem. I think they have it figured out. It worked for me!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey- check out this website for that pesky garage door problem. I think they have it figured out. It worked for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Frustration leads to bad analytical thinking.  From my &lt;a href=&quot;http://dimer.tamu.edu/simplog/archive.php?blogid=3&amp;pid=6214&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog take on this&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; ...the libertarian pro-market position regarding garage doors is not that deregulation would allow Warren to install a dangerous door... it&#039;s that it wouldn&#039;t. Efficient markets would drive out the unsafe pre-1993 versions because homeowners insurance companies, and the door manufacturers themselves, would seek to minimize their liability costs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also don&#039;t get the physics of how the south exposure causes the door to not close. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frustration leads to bad analytical thinking.  From my <a href="http://dimer.tamu.edu/simplog/archive.php?blogid=3&#038;pid=6214" rel="nofollow">blog take on this</a></p>
<blockquote><p> &#8230;the libertarian pro-market position regarding garage doors is not that deregulation would allow Warren to install a dangerous door&#8230; it&#8217;s that it wouldn&#8217;t. Efficient markets would drive out the unsafe pre-1993 versions because homeowners insurance companies, and the door manufacturers themselves, would seek to minimize their liability costs.</p></blockquote>
<p>I also don&#8217;t get the physics of how the south exposure causes the door to not close. </p>
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		<title>By: bob longendyck</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob longendyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Geez, why don&#039;t you just put a stool over the beam, put your foot on it, have somebody else close the door, which comes down on your foot and bruises it terribly, then sue the ass off the manufacturer, drag the gummint in on it, collect the money, than hire an illegal to open and close the door for you?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, why don&#8217;t you just put a stool over the beam, put your foot on it, have somebody else close the door, which comes down on your foot and bruises it terribly, then sue the ass off the manufacturer, drag the gummint in on it, collect the money, than hire an illegal to open and close the door for you?</p>
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		<title>By: bobby B</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/04/thanks-governme.html/comment-page-1#comment-10538</link>
		<dc:creator>bobby B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re going to do this, buy and have installed an accessory door-bottom pressure sensor and wiring adaptor (to your opener wiring.) Keep all the old parts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then, write a letter to your homeowner-policy insurer/agent explaining that you&#039;ve replaced the opener safety circuit beam with a more reliable pressure-sensor system, and ask them to place that letter in your file.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They&#039;ll either tell you very quickly that they&#039;ll cancel your policy if you do that (in which case you say sorry-nevermind and put the old parts back in), or the recipient sees it, thinks &quot;great, he wants me to open a file with the underwriting people to see if they&#039;ll deviate from our standard policy form we&#039;ve sold to millions and write a new one for him just because he can&#039;t keep his transmitter and mirror aligned.  . . . . Or, I could put it here in his file - just for now - until I have more time . . . &quot; and then you might be covered if you suffocate that annoying little brat next door.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They could, I suppose, write back and approve the exception.  If they do, though, you should quickly start buying lottery tickets. It might be a streak.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just know you&#039;ll go uncovered. And keep in mind, &quot;the 50 dead kids&quot; said nothing about the prevalance of broken legs and arms and wrists, smacked heads, &quot;near-suffocations&quot; (a lawyer was &quot;near&quot;), traumatic episodes where the non-contacting garage door nevertheless does approach, almost touch, and certainly frightens, the victim . . . .  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you lose, it&quot;ll run you $30k-$100k for defense attorney fees, costs, etc, plus however much of the verdict you eat. But, if you win, it should only cost you . . . $30k-$100k.  That&#039;s why they call it a win.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, that&#039;s why WE call it a win, at least.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re going to do this, buy and have installed an accessory door-bottom pressure sensor and wiring adaptor (to your opener wiring.) Keep all the old parts.</p>
<p>Then, write a letter to your homeowner-policy insurer/agent explaining that you&#8217;ve replaced the opener safety circuit beam with a more reliable pressure-sensor system, and ask them to place that letter in your file.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll either tell you very quickly that they&#8217;ll cancel your policy if you do that (in which case you say sorry-nevermind and put the old parts back in), or the recipient sees it, thinks &#8220;great, he wants me to open a file with the underwriting people to see if they&#8217;ll deviate from our standard policy form we&#8217;ve sold to millions and write a new one for him just because he can&#8217;t keep his transmitter and mirror aligned.  . . . . Or, I could put it here in his file &#8211; just for now &#8211; until I have more time . . . &#8221; and then you might be covered if you suffocate that annoying little brat next door.</p>
<p>They could, I suppose, write back and approve the exception.  If they do, though, you should quickly start buying lottery tickets. It might be a streak.</p>
<p>Just know you&#8217;ll go uncovered. And keep in mind, &#8220;the 50 dead kids&#8221; said nothing about the prevalance of broken legs and arms and wrists, smacked heads, &#8220;near-suffocations&#8221; (a lawyer was &#8220;near&#8221;), traumatic episodes where the non-contacting garage door nevertheless does approach, almost touch, and certainly frightens, the victim . . . .  </p>
<p>If you lose, it&#8221;ll run you $30k-$100k for defense attorney fees, costs, etc, plus however much of the verdict you eat. But, if you win, it should only cost you . . . $30k-$100k.  That&#8217;s why they call it a win.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s why WE call it a win, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nothing against you rick, but 50 kids in 10 years out of a population of over 280 million, damn there is a real crisis.  Don&#039;t give me the story about 1 being 1 too many, because then I have to ask about how many other contributing factors there were.  Don&#039;t give me the bit about how I am a monster because I don&#039;t care about children.  You couldn&#039;t be further from the truth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just read a story about a 3 year old who shot himself with a 9mm semi-automatic pistol.  The anti-gun crowd is already whining about how preventable this would have been if hand guns were banned.  Nobody mentions the negilgent moron who left a cocked pistol in reach of a 3 year old child. A 3 year old child who doesn&#039;t have the strength to pull the slide back on that pistol.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; How many of those 50 children were killed by doors in disrepair?  How many were killed because they were not being properly supervised by an adult?  Nobody wants to ask these questions, it is easier to blame it on the garage door.  We don&#039;t take responsibility for our own actions any more.  It is easier to blame something else and then get to politicians to pass another law restricting our freedom. The people pushing for laws like these are the ones who don&#039;t care about the children.  They need to be taught that there are consequences for their actions and that they are responsible for these consequences, not some inanimate object.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing against you rick, but 50 kids in 10 years out of a population of over 280 million, damn there is a real crisis.  Don&#8217;t give me the story about 1 being 1 too many, because then I have to ask about how many other contributing factors there were.  Don&#8217;t give me the bit about how I am a monster because I don&#8217;t care about children.  You couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth.</p>
<p>I just read a story about a 3 year old who shot himself with a 9mm semi-automatic pistol.  The anti-gun crowd is already whining about how preventable this would have been if hand guns were banned.  Nobody mentions the negilgent moron who left a cocked pistol in reach of a 3 year old child. A 3 year old child who doesn&#8217;t have the strength to pull the slide back on that pistol.</p>
<p> How many of those 50 children were killed by doors in disrepair?  How many were killed because they were not being properly supervised by an adult?  Nobody wants to ask these questions, it is easier to blame it on the garage door.  We don&#8217;t take responsibility for our own actions any more.  It is easier to blame something else and then get to politicians to pass another law restricting our freedom. The people pushing for laws like these are the ones who don&#8217;t care about the children.  They need to be taught that there are consequences for their actions and that they are responsible for these consequences, not some inanimate object.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was a garage door man for 15 years. I went back to school and became an engineer, so I am no longer in the business. I have met many customers with bloody wounds who tried to fix their garage door before calling someone. I met three customers who knew someone firsthand, who had lost an eye working on their own garage door. I met a guy whose cat was caught under a garage door, and squished, so that the two halves of the cat were held together by a flap of skin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I met one woman, whose good friend had her 5 year old child killed by a garage door. The law requiring photocells was added starting 1/1/93, after about 50 deaths in the previous decade due to garage doors. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is true that most garage doors can reverse if they hit something. However, the sensitivity adjustment is frequently out of adjustment, so that the motor does not reverse easily. If it reverses too easily, it will reverse for no reason. I have replaced many garage doors after the motor broke the door in the middle, from pushing while the door was stuck.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can mount the photo sensors so they face each other just inches apart, and avoid the problems you mentioned. I&#039;ve seen it done a number of times. However, I think that this a case where an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. I think it&#039;s better to put up with a little extra effort to make sure the door operates safety, then to regret an accident.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a garage door man for 15 years. I went back to school and became an engineer, so I am no longer in the business. I have met many customers with bloody wounds who tried to fix their garage door before calling someone. I met three customers who knew someone firsthand, who had lost an eye working on their own garage door. I met a guy whose cat was caught under a garage door, and squished, so that the two halves of the cat were held together by a flap of skin.</p>
<p>I met one woman, whose good friend had her 5 year old child killed by a garage door. The law requiring photocells was added starting 1/1/93, after about 50 deaths in the previous decade due to garage doors. </p>
<p>It is true that most garage doors can reverse if they hit something. However, the sensitivity adjustment is frequently out of adjustment, so that the motor does not reverse easily. If it reverses too easily, it will reverse for no reason. I have replaced many garage doors after the motor broke the door in the middle, from pushing while the door was stuck.</p>
<p>You can mount the photo sensors so they face each other just inches apart, and avoid the problems you mentioned. I&#8217;ve seen it done a number of times. However, I think that this a case where an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. I think it&#8217;s better to put up with a little extra effort to make sure the door operates safety, then to regret an accident.</p>
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		<title>By: ParatrooperJJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ParatrooperJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John - The garage door still has a hit sensor in it.  When the door senses an obstruction in its path it will reverse directions.  This is independent of the light beam sensor.  The light beam sensor is easily bypassed.  Cut the wires coming out of the sensor and twist them together. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; The garage door still has a hit sensor in it.  When the door senses an obstruction in its path it will reverse directions.  This is independent of the light beam sensor.  The light beam sensor is easily bypassed.  Cut the wires coming out of the sensor and twist them together. </p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;you&#039;d be grateful as hell if they had a fence around the pool to keep your kid out of it and from drowning.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or I could ... you know ... be proactive/responsible for my own kids (as you suggest) and teach them to swim rather than requiring my neighbor to shell out a few thousand dollars (if they&#039;re old enough to wander, they&#039;re old enough to swim). You speak of personal responsibility, but your examples are of how to absolve oneself of responsibility.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you&#8217;d be grateful as hell if they had a fence around the pool to keep your kid out of it and from drowning.</i></p>
<p>Or I could &#8230; you know &#8230; be proactive/responsible for my own kids (as you suggest) and teach them to swim rather than requiring my neighbor to shell out a few thousand dollars (if they&#8217;re old enough to wander, they&#8217;re old enough to swim). You speak of personal responsibility, but your examples are of how to absolve oneself of responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll not address the nanny-state issues except to say that I against such policies because, in addition to all the obvious philosophical things, I can argue that in some dimensions they make the world more dangerous.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the technologist in me wonders if this particular problem might not be solvable without the risk of expensive lawyer interactions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Can the two units (light source and sensor) be installed in pieces of ABS (black) pipe so the sun can&#039;t be &quot;seen&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or can both be installed behind the door frame such that the sun never falls on them?  (Both on one side of the door with a mirror on the opposite side?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll not address the nanny-state issues except to say that I against such policies because, in addition to all the obvious philosophical things, I can argue that in some dimensions they make the world more dangerous.</p>
<p>But the technologist in me wonders if this particular problem might not be solvable without the risk of expensive lawyer interactions.</p>
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Can the two units (light source and sensor) be installed in pieces of ABS (black) pipe so the sun can&#8217;t be &#8220;seen&#8221;?</p>
<p>Or can both be installed behind the door frame such that the sun never falls on them?  (Both on one side of the door with a mirror on the opposite side?)</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hope you don&#039;t mind, I linked to this over at my blog: http://libertarian-evangelical.blogspot.com/2008/04/bureaucracy.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are there any legitimate ideas about how to end the slow creep of government regulations into our daily life? Does anyone else think we&#039;ll eventually getting to a breaking point where people will say, &quot;enough is enough?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you don&#8217;t mind, I linked to this over at my blog: <a href="http://libertarian-evangelical.blogspot.com/2008/04/bureaucracy.html" rel="nofollow">http://libertarian-evangelical.blogspot.com/2008/04/bureaucracy.html</a></p>
<p>Are there any legitimate ideas about how to end the slow creep of government regulations into our daily life? Does anyone else think we&#8217;ll eventually getting to a breaking point where people will say, &#8220;enough is enough?&#8221;</p>
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