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	<title>Comments on: On Honest Engineering Discourse</title>
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		<title>By: ParatrooperJJ</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/04/on-honest-engin.html/comment-page-1#comment-10687</link>
		<dc:creator>ParatrooperJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s why you do everything verbally and don&#039;t write anything down.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Garble</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/04/on-honest-engin.html/comment-page-1#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>Garble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the automotive field we don&#039;t usually call something safe or unsafe. Those are conclusions and value judgments. Design 1 isn&#039;t &#039;safer&#039; it lasted 242% more cycles at peak vehicle loads before cracking was observed. Design 2 wasn&#039;t chosen because it only lasted 150 thousand cycles. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Brakes are &#039;safe&#039; or &#039;unsafe&#039; They stop the vehicle within 30 meters under specific conditions or they stop the vehicle in 60 meters under the same condition. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the automotive field we don&#8217;t usually call something safe or unsafe. Those are conclusions and value judgments. Design 1 isn&#8217;t &#8216;safer&#8217; it lasted 242% more cycles at peak vehicle loads before cracking was observed. Design 2 wasn&#8217;t chosen because it only lasted 150 thousand cycles. </p>
<p>Brakes are &#8216;safe&#8217; or &#8216;unsafe&#8217; They stop the vehicle within 30 meters under specific conditions or they stop the vehicle in 60 meters under the same condition. </p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
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		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With chemical plant you do a formal Hazard and Operability study, the whole point of which is to identify worries.  You must do those in the US surely?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With chemical plant you do a formal Hazard and Operability study, the whole point of which is to identify worries.  You must do those in the US surely?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik The Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik The Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know about Engineering (and IANAL), but the legal hack we use in other industries is to have a policy that we follow for [task]. For instance, some companies delete all of the e-mails pertaining to an issue they&#039;re going to be sued on because they&#039;re just following their old and well-documented e-mail retention policy. So in this case, you&#039;d have a policy that each building design undergoes some sort of &#039;challenge&#039; by other engineers as a standard part of the development process.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about Engineering (and IANAL), but the legal hack we use in other industries is to have a policy that we follow for [task]. For instance, some companies delete all of the e-mails pertaining to an issue they&#8217;re going to be sued on because they&#8217;re just following their old and well-documented e-mail retention policy. So in this case, you&#8217;d have a policy that each building design undergoes some sort of &#8216;challenge&#8217; by other engineers as a standard part of the development process.</p>
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