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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
		<link>http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2008/04/mccain-believes.html/comment-page-1#comment-10645</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In reading these comments and many others as well as listening to the media talking heads, the term &quot;teaser rates&quot; is used to describe unfair, or unethical lending practices.  The fact is that truth in lending laws require lenders to disclose the costs of loans at initial interest rates as well as for the maximum rate possible.  As an investor, I have seen this documentation on scores of loans which I have obtained over the years.  The information is disclosed and it&#039;s not in the fine print...It&#039;s up front and personal...The vast majority of homeowners complaining about initial rates re-setting knew it was going to happen.  They bet on selling the property at a higher price before the reset and/or making more money down the road.  Now, they are complaing...Don&#039;t be fooled.  They complain because they want the government aka taxpayers to help them out of a predicament that they themselves created.  Let&#039;s stop blaming the lenders for providing flexible terms...It&#039;s mis-placed blame and masks the borrowers role in bringing on this so-called housing crisis.    &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading these comments and many others as well as listening to the media talking heads, the term &#8220;teaser rates&#8221; is used to describe unfair, or unethical lending practices.  The fact is that truth in lending laws require lenders to disclose the costs of loans at initial interest rates as well as for the maximum rate possible.  As an investor, I have seen this documentation on scores of loans which I have obtained over the years.  The information is disclosed and it&#8217;s not in the fine print&#8230;It&#8217;s up front and personal&#8230;The vast majority of homeowners complaining about initial rates re-setting knew it was going to happen.  They bet on selling the property at a higher price before the reset and/or making more money down the road.  Now, they are complaing&#8230;Don&#8217;t be fooled.  They complain because they want the government aka taxpayers to help them out of a predicament that they themselves created.  Let&#8217;s stop blaming the lenders for providing flexible terms&#8230;It&#8217;s mis-placed blame and masks the borrowers role in bringing on this so-called housing crisis.    </p>
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		<title>By: MaxedOutMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxedOutMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Surprising as it seems, there actually were a substantial number of borrowers who were creditworthy (could have gotten loans that did qualify as prime or near prime). Lewis Ranieri, who had a lot to do with originally developing the market, did a survey and concluded that about 50% of the people in the pools he studied qualified for better loans.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The lowest number I have seen is 30%, which I get from the results of various agencies that are out there trying to deal with these loans. That is certainly an undershoot because of the declining home values. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But let&#039;s use the 30% number. How did these people get there? Well, the most common varieties of these loans were 2/28s, with an initial low payment but high underlying margins, and the commission paid to brokers for writing these was substantially above the commissions on  near-prime or prime loans. The brokers maximized their profit, and the borrowers didn&#039;t realize what they were doing because the initial low payments made the loans look &quot;prime&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprising as it seems, there actually were a substantial number of borrowers who were creditworthy (could have gotten loans that did qualify as prime or near prime). Lewis Ranieri, who had a lot to do with originally developing the market, did a survey and concluded that about 50% of the people in the pools he studied qualified for better loans.</p>
<p>The lowest number I have seen is 30%, which I get from the results of various agencies that are out there trying to deal with these loans. That is certainly an undershoot because of the declining home values. </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s use the 30% number. How did these people get there? Well, the most common varieties of these loans were 2/28s, with an initial low payment but high underlying margins, and the commission paid to brokers for writing these was substantially above the commissions on  near-prime or prime loans. The brokers maximized their profit, and the borrowers didn&#8217;t realize what they were doing because the initial low payments made the loans look &#8220;prime&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The statement, and it&#039;s wonderfully crypted, &quot;subprime borrowers who were credit-worthy at the time of purchase&quot; should be translated as McCain agrees to let the housing markets balance themselves with little or no government intervention. Brillant...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Scott, that&#039;s true when the purchaser has not suffered a (non-predictable) loss of income, but simply bought a house on an ARM where they could pay the teaser rate, but not enough to ever pay back the loan. However, I suspect that most of the bad mortgages were minimally credit-worthy, in that the buyer had barely the income to pay it back; they&#039;ve now gone bad because the market value of the house has plummeted to far below the remaining amount owed, and either the buyers have lost their jobs and cannot keep making payments, or they have merely discovered that it makes financial sense to default on a non-recourse mortgage that&#039;s deeply underwater. McCain&#039;s proposal doesn&#039;t shut these ones out of the bailout.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The statement, and it&#8217;s wonderfully crypted, &#8220;subprime borrowers who were credit-worthy at the time of purchase&#8221; should be translated as McCain agrees to let the housing markets balance themselves with little or no government intervention. Brillant&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Scott, that&#8217;s true when the purchaser has not suffered a (non-predictable) loss of income, but simply bought a house on an ARM where they could pay the teaser rate, but not enough to ever pay back the loan. However, I suspect that most of the bad mortgages were minimally credit-worthy, in that the buyer had barely the income to pay it back; they&#8217;ve now gone bad because the market value of the house has plummeted to far below the remaining amount owed, and either the buyers have lost their jobs and cannot keep making payments, or they have merely discovered that it makes financial sense to default on a non-recourse mortgage that&#8217;s deeply underwater. McCain&#8217;s proposal doesn&#8217;t shut these ones out of the bailout.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, I wouldn&#039;t say McCain believes in nothing.  He IS committed to keeping us in Iraq...for 100 years, if necessary.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I wouldn&#8217;t say McCain believes in nothing.  He IS committed to keeping us in Iraq&#8230;for 100 years, if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Second comment..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The mortgage crisis was essentially caused by structural economic problems, resulting in incentives and ownership of capital being in conflict. As was pointed out, the people selling the mortgages did not themselves hold the debt, and hence had a perverse incentive to sell bad debt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Solution to prevent this in the future? Beats me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Solution for now... if necessary, have the central banks inject *temporary* liquidity so that the derivative ownership/value confusion can be unwound without an economic collapse.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>The mortgage crisis was essentially caused by structural economic problems, resulting in incentives and ownership of capital being in conflict. As was pointed out, the people selling the mortgages did not themselves hold the debt, and hence had a perverse incentive to sell bad debt.</p>
<p>Solution to prevent this in the future? Beats me.</p>
<p>Solution for now&#8230; if necessary, have the central banks inject *temporary* liquidity so that the derivative ownership/value confusion can be unwound without an economic collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Two comments...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) On the principal of lesser evils, McCain gets my vote. We can talk about economics all we want, but wait until the first smuggled nuke blows up in a US city or two. Then all the rest of this will be trivial (especially considering the economic effect of that nuke).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;National security is by far the most critical issue that people should be concerned about. There are hostile nuclear powers (China, Russia) that are against us for geopolitical and economic reasons. There is a world-wide Mahdiist Jihad that threatens our existence due to the unprecedented coexistence of suicidal terrorists, modern travel, modern mass media, and unimaginable destructive technology.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;McCain at least understands thatt issue. I don&#039;t know if he understands much else (other than honor - he is an honorable guy), but he understands the one that counts. Obama and Hillary manifestly do not, and even if they didn&#039;t have exactly the wrong instincts, the people they would appoint from the Democrat stable would be unable to handle these threats.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments&#8230;</p>
<p>1) On the principal of lesser evils, McCain gets my vote. We can talk about economics all we want, but wait until the first smuggled nuke blows up in a US city or two. Then all the rest of this will be trivial (especially considering the economic effect of that nuke).</p>
<p>National security is by far the most critical issue that people should be concerned about. There are hostile nuclear powers (China, Russia) that are against us for geopolitical and economic reasons. There is a world-wide Mahdiist Jihad that threatens our existence due to the unprecedented coexistence of suicidal terrorists, modern travel, modern mass media, and unimaginable destructive technology.</p>
<p>McCain at least understands thatt issue. I don&#8217;t know if he understands much else (other than honor &#8211; he is an honorable guy), but he understands the one that counts. Obama and Hillary manifestly do not, and even if they didn&#8217;t have exactly the wrong instincts, the people they would appoint from the Democrat stable would be unable to handle these threats.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would like to know Fannie Mae&#039;s role in promoting lending practices which precipitated the current housing meltdown...It&#039;s easy to blame banks and brokers but the vast majority of loans were conforming to Fannie Mae guidelines so that they could be traded on the secondary mortgage markets.  As we know now, many toxic loans were then packaged into collateralized debt instruments which were then sold to unsuspecting investors...Did Fannie Mae have an active role in driving lending standards down to the lowest common denominator?  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know Fannie Mae&#8217;s role in promoting lending practices which precipitated the current housing meltdown&#8230;It&#8217;s easy to blame banks and brokers but the vast majority of loans were conforming to Fannie Mae guidelines so that they could be traded on the secondary mortgage markets.  As we know now, many toxic loans were then packaged into collateralized debt instruments which were then sold to unsuspecting investors&#8230;Did Fannie Mae have an active role in driving lending standards down to the lowest common denominator?  </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think McCain has the right idea here as has been noted...The statement, and it&#039;s wonderfully crypted, &quot;subprime borrowers who were credit-worthy at the time of purchase&quot; should be translated as McCain agrees to let the housing markets balance themselves with little or no government intervention.  Brillant...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think McCain has the right idea here as has been noted&#8230;The statement, and it&#8217;s wonderfully crypted, &#8220;subprime borrowers who were credit-worthy at the time of purchase&#8221; should be translated as McCain agrees to let the housing markets balance themselves with little or no government intervention.  Brillant&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The bailouts have been there for decades...  The VA and HUD have been picking up the tab for tens of thousands if not millions of foreclosures for many decades now.  The principal problem is that the government has a mission statement to help get Americans into homes...Unfortunately, these agencies are enablers who help non-qualified or barely qualified buyers into homes which are easy to walk away from down the road as these owners put little or no money down on these properties...To add insult to taxpayer injury, these government agencies re-hab these properties and carry the notes until they are auctioned to buyers.  Guess who are the top priority buyers?  You guessed it, those same folks who are under-qualified or barely qualified and who will put little or no money down.  And so, the cycle continues...This new so-called housing crisis is nothing new it just gets more press than the incredibly wasteful HUD and VA programs.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bailouts have been there for decades&#8230;  The VA and HUD have been picking up the tab for tens of thousands if not millions of foreclosures for many decades now.  The principal problem is that the government has a mission statement to help get Americans into homes&#8230;Unfortunately, these agencies are enablers who help non-qualified or barely qualified buyers into homes which are easy to walk away from down the road as these owners put little or no money down on these properties&#8230;To add insult to taxpayer injury, these government agencies re-hab these properties and carry the notes until they are auctioned to buyers.  Guess who are the top priority buyers?  You guessed it, those same folks who are under-qualified or barely qualified and who will put little or no money down.  And so, the cycle continues&#8230;This new so-called housing crisis is nothing new it just gets more press than the incredibly wasteful HUD and VA programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The bailouts have been there for decades...  The VA and HUD have been picking up the tab for tens of thousands if not millions of foreclosures for many decades now.  The principal problem is that the government has a mission statement to help get Americans into homes...Unfortunately, these agencies are enablers who help non-qualified or barely qualified buyers into homes which are easy to walk away from down the road as these owners put little or no money down on these properties...To add insult to taxpayer injury, these government agencies re-hab these properties and carry the notes until they are auctioned to buyers.  Guess who are the top priority buyers?  You guessed it, those same folks who are under-qualified or barely qualified and who will put little or no money down.  And so, the cycle continues...This new so-called housing crisis is nothing new it just gets more press than the incredibly wasteful HUD and VA programs.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bailouts have been there for decades&#8230;  The VA and HUD have been picking up the tab for tens of thousands if not millions of foreclosures for many decades now.  The principal problem is that the government has a mission statement to help get Americans into homes&#8230;Unfortunately, these agencies are enablers who help non-qualified or barely qualified buyers into homes which are easy to walk away from down the road as these owners put little or no money down on these properties&#8230;To add insult to taxpayer injury, these government agencies re-hab these properties and carry the notes until they are auctioned to buyers.  Guess who are the top priority buyers?  You guessed it, those same folks who are under-qualified or barely qualified and who will put little or no money down.  And so, the cycle continues&#8230;This new so-called housing crisis is nothing new it just gets more press than the incredibly wasteful HUD and VA programs.</p>
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