Comments on: Burning the World’s Food in Our Cars http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html Dispatches from a Small Business Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: dorkey http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8362 dorkey Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:00:51 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8362 <p>Yes I agreed that population is the major problem for us which continuously running for several years. which considered a lot's of problems like poverty, pollution, Global warming etc. Even the rising cost of foods is widely being blamed on the use of grains for biofuels, and the case for the prosecution is simply made. As we are all increasingly aware, world demand for cereals has recently exceeded the available supply. </p> <p><br /> dorkey</p> <p><a href="http://www.treatmentcenters.org/nebraska" rel="nofollow">Nebraska Treatment Centers</a> </p> Yes I agreed that population is the major problem for us which continuously running for several years. which considered a lot’s of problems like poverty, pollution, Global warming etc. Even the rising cost of foods is widely being blamed on the use of grains for biofuels, and the case for the prosecution is simply made. As we are all increasingly aware, world demand for cereals has recently exceeded the available supply.

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]]> By: David B http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8361 David B Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:49:06 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8361 <p>"So do you have an oil well next to your house?" </p> <p>No, but when shipping energy across significant distances, one needs to be concerned with the efficiency of that shipment. Gasoline is a significantly more energy-dense medium than ethanol is, and many of the ethanol difficulties come about due to shipping the stuff (because of its corrosive effects on rubber). </p> “So do you have an oil well next to your house?”

No, but when shipping energy across significant distances, one needs to be concerned with the efficiency of that shipment. Gasoline is a significantly more energy-dense medium than ethanol is, and many of the ethanol difficulties come about due to shipping the stuff (because of its corrosive effects on rubber).

]]> By: tk http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8360 tk Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:57:51 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8360 <p>"That said, ethanol as a fuel makes a lot of sense for tractors or people who live next to where it's produced. For the rest of us? Not so much...:</p> <p>So do you have an oil well next to your house?</p> “That said, ethanol as a fuel makes a lot of sense for tractors or people who live next to where it’s produced. For the rest of us? Not so much…:

So do you have an oil well next to your house?

]]> By: David B http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8359 David B Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:17:20 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8359 <p>Personally, I think the best use of corn-based ethanol is Maker's Mark. </p> <p>I do like the idea of more R&D in non-oil-based portable fuels, because I believe that the reliance on a single fuel for all of our transportation needs renders us more vulnerable to price and scarcity effects. That said, ethanol as a fuel makes a lot of sense for tractors or people who live next to where it's produced. For the rest of us? Not so much...</p> Personally, I think the best use of corn-based ethanol is Maker’s Mark.

I do like the idea of more R&D in non-oil-based portable fuels, because I believe that the reliance on a single fuel for all of our transportation needs renders us more vulnerable to price and scarcity effects. That said, ethanol as a fuel makes a lot of sense for tractors or people who live next to where it’s produced. For the rest of us? Not so much…

]]> By: Allen http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8358 Allen Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:53:08 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8358 <p>It wasn't that long ago that the American Lung Association was against ethanol because, IIRC, it produced a bunch of NO2 out of the tailpipe which really messes with people.</p> It wasn’t that long ago that the American Lung Association was against ethanol because, IIRC, it produced a bunch of NO2 out of the tailpipe which really messes with people.

]]> By: Joseph Hertzlinger http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8357 Joseph Hertzlinger Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:39:37 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8357 <p>I'm beginning to think that putting ethanol in gasoline was actually a scheme for making food scarce enough to have something for Malthusians to point at. It's currently harder to use "Malthus was wrong" as a sound bite; it can only be used with involved explanations that non-geeks won't listen to.</p> I’m beginning to think that putting ethanol in gasoline was actually a scheme for making food scarce enough to have something for Malthusians to point at. It’s currently harder to use “Malthus was wrong” as a sound bite; it can only be used with involved explanations that non-geeks won’t listen to.

]]> By: davidcobb http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8356 davidcobb Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:16:23 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8356 <p>Just some informational points.<br /> 1) Ethanol producers do not recieve any subsidies. It is a "blender's credit" given to oil companies to offset the replacement of MTBE.<br /> 2) Greenfuel technologies has just completed a successful test at the Redhawk powerplant in Arizona.Production was about 75g per m3 per day of algae using a cheap german matrix bioreactor and exhaust gases. Harvesting technology was the limiting factor. Algae can be processed into approx. 1/3 biodiesel, 1/3 ethanol and, 1/3 feed by weight.</p> Just some informational points.
1) Ethanol producers do not recieve any subsidies. It is a “blender’s credit” given to oil companies to offset the replacement of MTBE.
2) Greenfuel technologies has just completed a successful test at the Redhawk powerplant in Arizona.Production was about 75g per m3 per day of algae using a cheap german matrix bioreactor and exhaust gases. Harvesting technology was the limiting factor. Algae can be processed into approx. 1/3 biodiesel, 1/3 ethanol and, 1/3 feed by weight.

]]> By: Bearster http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8355 Bearster Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:45:21 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8355 <p>Claims that CO2 causes catastrophic global warming are BS. So why even mention that ethanol mania won't reduce CO2?</p> <p>I think this contributes to the global warming Big Lie juggernaut.</p> Claims that CO2 causes catastrophic global warming are BS. So why even mention that ethanol mania won’t reduce CO2?

I think this contributes to the global warming Big Lie juggernaut.

]]> By: Andy http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8354 Andy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:39:12 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8354 <p>In addition to switchgrass, there's always the multipurpose hemp. Time to end the war on drugs for any # of reasons, including the economy.</p> In addition to switchgrass, there’s always the multipurpose hemp. Time to end the war on drugs for any # of reasons, including the economy.

]]> By: Jim K http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html/comment-page-1#comment-8353 Jim K Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:10:17 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/burning-the-wor.html#comment-8353 <p>As if it was not bad enough:<br /> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-ethanol28nov28,1,5629570.story?coll=la-news-politics-national&track=crosspromo</p> <p>Some in congress want a 5x increase in the ethanol mandate over the next 15 years. According to the USDA less than 2% of Americans farm and fewer than 10% live in rural areas. How long do we have to tolerate this blatant pay-off to them???</p> As if it was not bad enough:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-ethanol28nov28,1,5629570.story?coll=la-news-politics-national&track=crosspromo

Some in congress want a 5x increase in the ethanol mandate over the next 15 years. According to the USDA less than 2% of Americans farm and fewer than 10% live in rural areas. How long do we have to tolerate this blatant pay-off to them???

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