Comments on: Anatomy of A False Panic http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html Dispatches from a Small Business Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jonas N http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8194 Jonas N Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:14:13 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8194 <p>NeoLibertarian, </p> <p>No, the higher volume (=lower density) is the reason ice is floating. The net-effect is exactly zero! The disapearing ice volume you refer to is the volume you se <b>above</b> sea levels as long as its ice and thus floating</p> NeoLibertarian,

No, the higher volume (=lower density) is the reason ice is floating. The net-effect is exactly zero! The disapearing ice volume you refer to is the volume you se above sea levels as long as its ice and thus floating

]]> By: NeoLibertarian http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8193 NeoLibertarian Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:21:49 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8193 <p>Actually, since in the last few degrees before freezing water expands, ice takes more space than water. That's why if you leave a closed container of water in the freezer or out in the snow, it often bursts when the water becomes ice. As a kid I remember seeing even a large, lidless butter tub full of frozen water that just split down the side (the ice could've gone up, but osmosis is not really at play that close to a solid state).</p> <p>So really, unless I'm mistaken, the melting of floating sea ice could cause sea levels to drop, if anything. I could be wrong, I'm not a scientist, but it seems like this would be the case.</p> Actually, since in the last few degrees before freezing water expands, ice takes more space than water. That’s why if you leave a closed container of water in the freezer or out in the snow, it often bursts when the water becomes ice. As a kid I remember seeing even a large, lidless butter tub full of frozen water that just split down the side (the ice could’ve gone up, but osmosis is not really at play that close to a solid state).

So really, unless I’m mistaken, the melting of floating sea ice could cause sea levels to drop, if anything. I could be wrong, I’m not a scientist, but it seems like this would be the case.

]]> By: scraphoops http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8192 scraphoops Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:48:24 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8192 <p>“I was told by scientists that the entire Western Antarctica is now floating. That is a fifth of the continent. If it broke up, sea levels may rise as much as six metres,” Somebody needs to replace their scientists with one's that know ice floats.</p> “I was told by scientists that the entire Western Antarctica is now floating. That is a fifth of the continent. If it broke up, sea levels may rise as much as six metres,” Somebody needs to replace their scientists with one’s that know ice floats.

]]> By: Andy http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8191 Andy Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:57:51 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8191 <p>Considering that scientists only recently discovered the Tasmanian deep sea current, it boggles the mind how any declarative statements can be made about climate when we only know enough to know that we know next to nothing -- sort of like projecting Larsen B to the whole of GW. [/head shake]</p> Considering that scientists only recently discovered the Tasmanian deep sea current, it boggles the mind how any declarative statements can be made about climate when we only know enough to know that we know next to nothing — sort of like projecting Larsen B to the whole of GW. [/head shake]

]]> By: la petite chou chou http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8190 la petite chou chou Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:30:29 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8190 <p>Yeah, I was trying to figure out how floating ice in one piece was any different than floating ice in many pieces...Clearly it didn't add up.</p> Yeah, I was trying to figure out how floating ice in one piece was any different than floating ice in many pieces…Clearly it didn’t add up.

]]> By: markm http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8189 markm Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:13:18 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8189 <p>And last of all, if floating ice breaks up, there's zero effect on sea level. </p> And last of all, if floating ice breaks up, there’s zero effect on sea level.

]]> By: la petite chou chou http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html/comment-page-1#comment-8188 la petite chou chou Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:07:06 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/11/anatomy-of-a-fa.html#comment-8188 <p>Those pictures are pretty cool.</p> <p>I love how easy it is for hard-core enviros to ignore facts...</p> Those pictures are pretty cool.

I love how easy it is for hard-core enviros to ignore facts…

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