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		<title>By: esteban</title>
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		<dc:creator>esteban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;does anyone have info on the male to female ratios in the city of vancouver?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Kenneth Noisewater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Yes, New York City has a lot more single women.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The down side: most of those single women are bitter, man-hating, feminists. Go figure. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cause?  I&#039;d like you to meet my good friend Effect over here...  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes, New York City has a lot more single women.</i></p>
<p>The down side: most of those single women are bitter, man-hating, feminists. Go figure. </p>
<p>Cause?  I&#8217;d like you to meet my good friend Effect over here&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Women now represent a significant majority of the people graduating from college each year. This means they will find it difficult to find single men as educated as they are. White collar women are also more reluctant than white collar men to date blue collar.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have to say that some of the all time stupidest people I&#039;ve met have had a college education. It&#039;s not all it is cracked up to be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That aside, I think you are making the same &quot;status&quot; argument that several other commenters have made in this thread. Women increasingly turn up their noses at blue collar men.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Women now represent a significant majority of the people graduating from college each year. This means they will find it difficult to find single men as educated as they are. White collar women are also more reluctant than white collar men to date blue collar.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to say that some of the all time stupidest people I&#8217;ve met have had a college education. It&#8217;s not all it is cracked up to be.</p>
<p>That aside, I think you are making the same &#8220;status&#8221; argument that several other commenters have made in this thread. Women increasingly turn up their noses at blue collar men.</p>
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		<title>By: Bald Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bald Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, New York City has a lot more single women.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The down side: most of those single women are bitter, man-hating, feminists. Go figure.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, New York City has a lot more single women.</p>
<p>The down side: most of those single women are bitter, man-hating, feminists. Go figure.  </p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another issue single women are dealing with is the m/f ratios of students graduating from college.  Women now represent a significant majority of the people graduating from college each year.  This means they will find it difficult to find single men as educated as they are.  White collar women are also more reluctant than white collar men to date blue collar.  This problem will get worse and worse over the next 10-20 years.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another issue single women are dealing with is the m/f ratios of students graduating from college.  Women now represent a significant majority of the people graduating from college each year.  This means they will find it difficult to find single men as educated as they are.  White collar women are also more reluctant than white collar men to date blue collar.  This problem will get worse and worse over the next 10-20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: LmE</title>
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		<dc:creator>LmE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are several valid points here, with some exception to the racist Muslim comment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My wife and I moved just outside Boulder going on six years ago and both work in Denver.  She is better than 5 years younger than me and has many friends in the 30-40 range.  These are thoughts based on some truly crazy stories I&#039;ve heard second hand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes beautiful women look for status but there are plenty of men that get around that quite easily due to layed back attitudes and plenty of money being used to buy recreation time versus maseratis.  In other words image doesn&#039;t matter that much.  Women will fall for good looking men with quick tongues even if it is only casual.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are a lot more single women in the Denver area than the map suggests and maybe the perception is why they all call Denver Menver.  A lot of those women are very very lonely which suggests there will be social issues down the road.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even though the muslim comment is repulsive there is some truth to it.  With the DNC coming next year there are a lot of those red dots from Washington migrating in for planning etc. and many of them have really interesting stories which suggests more in the way weird happenings.  There are a lot of gay men in Washington and a lot of straight women dating them.  She and I have watched Colorado get more liberal since we&#039;ve been here which we don&#039;t mind one bit.  But her friends keep telling these stories about men finally admitting they are gay and breaking up as well as having the same thing happen to them in Washington.  No doubt about the fact that the men were so called players in the communities and the women were attracted to that even though their friends keep saying he&#039;s gay, he&#039;s gay, he&#039;s gay.  They just don&#039;t listen because they like going to power parties.  She is hearing more and more of this as time goes on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On California that is where we moved from and a lot of folks are doing the same.  The comments above are spot on but the status issue is nowhere near what it seems to be in Denver or supposedly Washington.  Women seem to have gay radar and everyone gets along just fine.  There are plenty of extremely successful intelligent women who would rather have a nice man that they can go biking with and sleep comfortably with instead of someone who knows the scene mostly because all the smart women work in the scene and can&#039;t wait to get out of it on Friday.  The economy is really going out there with the high tech return and it isn&#039;t doing near as well here.  The conclusion is that a truly confident women doesn&#039;t really care about the status because it is more of a pain to her and she would happily bring home the bacon if a great man would take care of the baby, clean and maybe write a book or something.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its just different attitudes depending on where you are.  Sorry about the spelling and punctuation but we drank a bottle and a half of chard over dinner.  Bye.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several valid points here, with some exception to the racist Muslim comment.</p>
<p>My wife and I moved just outside Boulder going on six years ago and both work in Denver.  She is better than 5 years younger than me and has many friends in the 30-40 range.  These are thoughts based on some truly crazy stories I&#8217;ve heard second hand.</p>
<p>Yes beautiful women look for status but there are plenty of men that get around that quite easily due to layed back attitudes and plenty of money being used to buy recreation time versus maseratis.  In other words image doesn&#8217;t matter that much.  Women will fall for good looking men with quick tongues even if it is only casual.</p>
<p>There are a lot more single women in the Denver area than the map suggests and maybe the perception is why they all call Denver Menver.  A lot of those women are very very lonely which suggests there will be social issues down the road.</p>
<p>Even though the muslim comment is repulsive there is some truth to it.  With the DNC coming next year there are a lot of those red dots from Washington migrating in for planning etc. and many of them have really interesting stories which suggests more in the way weird happenings.  There are a lot of gay men in Washington and a lot of straight women dating them.  She and I have watched Colorado get more liberal since we&#8217;ve been here which we don&#8217;t mind one bit.  But her friends keep telling these stories about men finally admitting they are gay and breaking up as well as having the same thing happen to them in Washington.  No doubt about the fact that the men were so called players in the communities and the women were attracted to that even though their friends keep saying he&#8217;s gay, he&#8217;s gay, he&#8217;s gay.  They just don&#8217;t listen because they like going to power parties.  She is hearing more and more of this as time goes on.</p>
<p>On California that is where we moved from and a lot of folks are doing the same.  The comments above are spot on but the status issue is nowhere near what it seems to be in Denver or supposedly Washington.  Women seem to have gay radar and everyone gets along just fine.  There are plenty of extremely successful intelligent women who would rather have a nice man that they can go biking with and sleep comfortably with instead of someone who knows the scene mostly because all the smart women work in the scene and can&#8217;t wait to get out of it on Friday.  The economy is really going out there with the high tech return and it isn&#8217;t doing near as well here.  The conclusion is that a truly confident women doesn&#8217;t really care about the status because it is more of a pain to her and she would happily bring home the bacon if a great man would take care of the baby, clean and maybe write a book or something.</p>
<p>Its just different attitudes depending on where you are.  Sorry about the spelling and punctuation but we drank a bottle and a half of chard over dinner.  Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Approaching this from the male standpoint, I&#039;d say the best places to be are the smaller towns and cities. My experience is that women there are far more approachable, and that they will even approach you. Women in the big cities, even places with a supposed shortage of men, tend to be downright unfriendly by comparison. I could tell you stories ...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe some female readers can chip in with small town vs big city thoughts. I can&#039;t imagine NY and Chicago are a blast from the womans side either. Not if how often they smile is any indication.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Approaching this from the male standpoint, I&#8217;d say the best places to be are the smaller towns and cities. My experience is that women there are far more approachable, and that they will even approach you. Women in the big cities, even places with a supposed shortage of men, tend to be downright unfriendly by comparison. I could tell you stories &#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe some female readers can chip in with small town vs big city thoughts. I can&#8217;t imagine NY and Chicago are a blast from the womans side either. Not if how often they smile is any indication.</p>
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		<title>By: Fz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An early commenter nailed it:  the dots are too damn big.  To make any sense of this map, it has to be way more granular, so one could see the shades from blue through purple to red, perhaps at county resolution instead of huge meaningless circles hovering over the urban areas.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&#039;m just a country mouse and all, but there are many other variables than Bicoastal-vs-Flyover Country, and that map doesn&#039;t even hint at them.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That big hit over Miami?  Snowbirds, with females lasting longer than males.  Don&#039;t move there to find a sugar mama unless you&#039;re willing to help her change her Depends.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish I had a home license of ArcInfo to take a whack at this question.  Can&#039;t get away with this stuff at work.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An early commenter nailed it:  the dots are too damn big.  To make any sense of this map, it has to be way more granular, so one could see the shades from blue through purple to red, perhaps at county resolution instead of huge meaningless circles hovering over the urban areas.  </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just a country mouse and all, but there are many other variables than Bicoastal-vs-Flyover Country, and that map doesn&#8217;t even hint at them.  </p>
<p>That big hit over Miami?  Snowbirds, with females lasting longer than males.  Don&#8217;t move there to find a sugar mama unless you&#8217;re willing to help her change her Depends.  </p>
<p>I wish I had a home license of ArcInfo to take a whack at this question.  Can&#8217;t get away with this stuff at work.  </p>
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		<title>By: Fz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An early commenter nailed it:  the dots are too damn big.  To make any sense of this map, it has to be way more granular, so one could see the shades from blue through purple to red, perhaps at county resolution instead of huge meaningless circles hovering over the urban areas.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&#039;m just a country mouse and all, but there are many other variables than Bicoastal-vs-Flyover Country, and that map doesn&#039;t even hint at them.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That big hit over Miami?  Snowbirds, with females lasting longer than males.  Don&#039;t move there to find a sugar mama unless you&#039;re willing to help her change her Depends.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish I had a home license of ArcInfo to take a whack at this question.  Can&#039;t get away with this stuff at work.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An early commenter nailed it:  the dots are too damn big.  To make any sense of this map, it has to be way more granular, so one could see the shades from blue through purple to red, perhaps at county resolution instead of huge meaningless circles hovering over the urban areas.  </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just a country mouse and all, but there are many other variables than Bicoastal-vs-Flyover Country, and that map doesn&#8217;t even hint at them.  </p>
<p>That big hit over Miami?  Snowbirds, with females lasting longer than males.  Don&#8217;t move there to find a sugar mama unless you&#8217;re willing to help her change her Depends.  </p>
<p>I wish I had a home license of ArcInfo to take a whack at this question.  Can&#8217;t get away with this stuff at work.  </p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;...also, a friend of mine pointed out that the male/female ratio in vancouver is something like 8:1 females over males. doormen have to make sure there are enough guys in the bars and keep out the women.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are you referring to Vancouver, Washington, across the river from Portland, Oregon? If you are referring to Vancouver, Canada, where I live, then your friend is giving you bad information. There certainly are a lot of single women living in downtown and the Kitsilano district, and they often display the high-status-man-hunting behavior described by other posters, but bar and club doormen absolutely do not need to take any drastic measures to balance gender ratios by keeping out women.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Except maybe for gay bars.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;also, a friend of mine pointed out that the male/female ratio in vancouver is something like 8:1 females over males. doormen have to make sure there are enough guys in the bars and keep out the women.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Are you referring to Vancouver, Washington, across the river from Portland, Oregon? If you are referring to Vancouver, Canada, where I live, then your friend is giving you bad information. There certainly are a lot of single women living in downtown and the Kitsilano district, and they often display the high-status-man-hunting behavior described by other posters, but bar and club doormen absolutely do not need to take any drastic measures to balance gender ratios by keeping out women.</p>
<p>Except maybe for gay bars.</p>
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