Comments on: Why Doesn’t Google Sell This Service? http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html Dispatches from a Small Business Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:42:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Earl http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5228 Earl Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:24:48 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5228 <p>Try icerocket.com . It does just about what you want. Interestingly, one of their investors is Mark Cuban.</p> <p>earl</p> Try icerocket.com . It does just about what you want. Interestingly, one of their investors is Mark Cuban.

earl

]]> By: Gavin http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5227 Gavin Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:28:50 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5227 <p>There are companies that do this for profit. The manual review and reporting part. A simple list of Google results still has to be reviewed by a human.<br /> One of the companies is the weirdly named cymfony d-o-t com. I hope this mention, doesn't violate the rules for your comments. I don't have any financial interest in the company, but I know someone who works there.<br /> PS. Loved your book.</p> There are companies that do this for profit. The manual review and reporting part. A simple list of Google results still has to be reviewed by a human.
One of the companies is the weirdly named cymfony d-o-t com. I hope this mention, doesn’t violate the rules for your comments. I don’t have any financial interest in the company, but I know someone who works there.
PS. Loved your book.

]]> By: Brian http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5226 Brian Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:34:21 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5226 <p><i>I'd think this service would be pretty valuable, certainly saving money over having employees manually troll blogs and comment boards. </i></p> <p>I do that on behalf of my 'employer wo does not pay a living wage (yet)', LiftPort. I might have some perspective here </p> <p>...</p> <p>At some point you're going to want to do something with the clippings - act on them, comment on them, forward the complaint somewhere. Wait more than (guess) 36 hours and with most blogs the post is off the main page. Commenting at that point is going to be good for the blogger but no one else is going to see it. All a clipping service could do is abstract a layer between the people who need to act and the people they need to interact with.</p> <p>.....</p> <p>But it's somewhat labor intensive. Trolling the web for our company name and some related topics takes about 90 minutes a day, if there are replies to be made. If nothing is happening, only 20 minutes. But LiftPort isn't a big deal (yet). Were we to grow and should we want to keep that effort up I can see it occupying a good chunk of a work day.</p> <p>So we'll break it down. Designate a SME for a series of category, split the feeds based on smart filters to the SME .. and I'm talking through my hat here - and that might do it.</p> <p>But if you want to do it .. and I think it's pretty important .. well you gotta do what you gotta do.</p> I’d think this service would be pretty valuable, certainly saving money over having employees manually troll blogs and comment boards.

I do that on behalf of my ‘employer wo does not pay a living wage (yet)’, LiftPort. I might have some perspective here

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At some point you’re going to want to do something with the clippings – act on them, comment on them, forward the complaint somewhere. Wait more than (guess) 36 hours and with most blogs the post is off the main page. Commenting at that point is going to be good for the blogger but no one else is going to see it. All a clipping service could do is abstract a layer between the people who need to act and the people they need to interact with.

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But it’s somewhat labor intensive. Trolling the web for our company name and some related topics takes about 90 minutes a day, if there are replies to be made. If nothing is happening, only 20 minutes. But LiftPort isn’t a big deal (yet). Were we to grow and should we want to keep that effort up I can see it occupying a good chunk of a work day.

So we’ll break it down. Designate a SME for a series of category, split the feeds based on smart filters to the SME .. and I’m talking through my hat here – and that might do it.

But if you want to do it .. and I think it’s pretty important .. well you gotta do what you gotta do.

]]> By: eddie http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5225 eddie Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:37:56 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5225 <p>Well, both <a href="http://news.google.com/" rel="nofollow">Google News</a> and <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch" rel="nofollow">Google Blog Search</a> do essentially that. You can sort the results by date if you want to see everything that's new in the past day (or week or whatever), but even the default "sort by relevance" will weigh the recent stuff more heavily and put it first. The coverage only extends to news sources and blogs, of course, but that's probably where the clippings you care about are going to show up.</p> <p>Then there's <a href="http://www.google.com/alerts" rel="nofollow">Google Alerts</a> (read the <a href="http://www.google.com/alerts/faq.html" rel="nofollow">faq</a>). Google Alerts will email you any time something new pops up in the search results for whatever search terms you specify. That includes general web searches, not just news and blogs. But they only look at changes in the top twenty results (for web pages; they also watch for changes in the top ten news articles, top ten blog entries, and top fifty newsgroup posts). I'm sure they could add a feature to let you specify how deep in the results you want to monitor, but they don't have that feature at the moment.</p> <p>That's pretty close to what you're talking about, I think, and if I ran a company and was concerned about what people were saying about me I'd definitely use Google Alerts. I'd also periodically do a deep search to look for interesting stuff that didn't show up in the top twenty hits.</p> <p>Google already does fast respidering on things that change frequently.</p> <p>And, of course, Google gives this service away for free thanks to their advertisement supported revenue model.</p> Well, both Google News and Google Blog Search do essentially that. You can sort the results by date if you want to see everything that’s new in the past day (or week or whatever), but even the default “sort by relevance” will weigh the recent stuff more heavily and put it first. The coverage only extends to news sources and blogs, of course, but that’s probably where the clippings you care about are going to show up.

Then there’s Google Alerts (read the faq). Google Alerts will email you any time something new pops up in the search results for whatever search terms you specify. That includes general web searches, not just news and blogs. But they only look at changes in the top twenty results (for web pages; they also watch for changes in the top ten news articles, top ten blog entries, and top fifty newsgroup posts). I’m sure they could add a feature to let you specify how deep in the results you want to monitor, but they don’t have that feature at the moment.

That’s pretty close to what you’re talking about, I think, and if I ran a company and was concerned about what people were saying about me I’d definitely use Google Alerts. I’d also periodically do a deep search to look for interesting stuff that didn’t show up in the top twenty hits.

Google already does fast respidering on things that change frequently.

And, of course, Google gives this service away for free thanks to their advertisement supported revenue model.

]]> By: Keith Casey http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5224 Keith Casey Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:10:47 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5224 <p><br /> If you do a search in their News area, you'll end up seeing an RSS link on the left hand side. If you drop this RSS feed into your feed reader, you'll be in good shape. I currently do the same for a number of keywords, products, etc.</p> If you do a search in their News area, you’ll end up seeing an RSS link on the left hand side. If you drop this RSS feed into your feed reader, you’ll be in good shape. I currently do the same for a number of keywords, products, etc.

]]> By: CRC http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5223 CRC Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:10:01 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5223 <p>Sorry, here is a better URL: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook</p> Sorry, here is a better URL: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook

]]> By: CRC http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html/comment-page-1#comment-5222 CRC Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:09:03 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2007/04/why_doesnt_goog.html #comment-5222 <p>You mean this: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook%252F%253Fhl%253Den%26hl%3Den&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook%252F%253Fhl%253Den%26hl%3Den&hl=en</p> You mean this: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook%252F%253Fhl%253Den%26hl%3Den&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook%252F%253Fhl%253Den%26hl%3Den&hl=en

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