Comments on: The Skeptical Middle Ground on Warming

By: Black Sal

Black Sal — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:27:29 +0000

JoshK, 'who's' is the shortened version of who is, I think you meant whose, as in belonging to. The Nazis were fascists, not socialists, and 'all information' was not so freely available. If you have a look at propaganda you'll realise that false information was fed to the people.

Climate scientists are not enviro-dictators and it seems you are being affected by the same kind of propaganda that the German people fell prey to in the 1930's. The first comment on this thread demonstrates a lack of willingness to learn.

Demonize and ignore the truth is what characterizes both of you.

By: markm

markm — Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:50:04 +0000

Larry, the thing is that ice ages followed a pretty regular 22,000 year cycle, and the last peak temperature was about 11,000 years ago. We'd be approaching the coldest part of another ice age already if the cycle hadn't abruptly terminated around the time our ancestors were discovering agriculture. The climate has been unusually stable the last 8,000 years; that is, the Little Ice Age, the freezing the former Viking farms in Greenland, and the drying out of a formerly forested region into the Sahara desert, and even Gore's wild fantasies of sudden 20-foot changes in sea level were small things compared to what was going on regularly before. And that period of stability was the only thing that made it possible to grow enough crops to feed cities.

So that leads to two theories:

-Clearing land for primitive farming caused enough global warming to abort the ice age cycles and approximately stabilize the climate.

-Or agriculture was invented many times before, but forgotten when climate changes killed off too many harvests, until the ice age cycle stopped for unknown reasons.

By: JoshK

JoshK — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:56:10 +0000

As someone who’s family lost many members in the Holocaust, I can tell from the stories of many of the survivors that it was the iron-clad refusal to evaluate all information and think freely that let Socialists (Nazis) take over society. These enviro-dictators are another form of the same madness. There motto is the same, “You cannot question us!”.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:07:47 +0000

Even if it weren't for the fact that climate alarmists are playing a giant game of "let's pretend" with our money and our freedom at stake (specifically, "let's pretend that all of these millions of factors we don't understand at all will remain constant for hundreds of years, even though they've never remained constant for so much as an hour in all of recorded history"), one still has to question the wisdom of trusting people so dense that they can't even predict the _past_.

Taking a hypothesis that can't even explain _currently observed_ phenomena accurately, and advancing it as a Proven Law of Nature is not science. Hell, even most _religions_ can't get away with _that_ much chutzpah.

By: Locksmith Larry

Locksmith Larry — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:30:57 +0000

This is an interesting site, sounds pretty Libertarian to me. As a small biz owner Libertarian party member, take that as a complement.

Steep's comment is pretty funny, debate over, so turned it off...

I have a geology degree and studied the current ice age we are in (just between glaciations at the moment) and understand that between the glaciations there is warming. Been that way for the last 20 million years when Australia left Antartica at the south pole by it's self and we started having ice ages.

By: steep

steep — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:11:12 +0000

I watched part of the program, but then AlGore came on and told me the debate was over.
I didn't hear how his side won the debate, but its over now, so I turned him off.
No point in trying to learn more.
Resistance is futile.