Comments on: Uhaul Indicator of California Health http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html Dispatches from a Small Business Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Don http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2402 Don Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:11:00 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2402 <p>This is a good presentation of how pricing is influenced by supply and demand. I read this article http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/planetix/planetix.html on how airlines adjust prices regularly so they can maximize profits but did not realize that moving truck rental companies did that as well. I gather that the California tax situation works very similar. </p> <p>Last night there was a program on cable where residents of Michigan were being asked about their thoughts on sending water from Lake Michigan to California. I guess the residents will have to pay for this somehow.<br /> </p> This is a good presentation of how pricing is influenced by supply and demand. I read this article http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/planetix/planetix.html on how airlines adjust prices regularly so they can maximize profits but did not realize that moving truck rental companies did that as well. I gather that the California tax situation works very similar.

Last night there was a program on cable where residents of Michigan were being asked about their thoughts on sending water from Lake Michigan to California. I guess the residents will have to pay for this somehow.

]]> By: apartment hunter http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2401 apartment hunter Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:18:06 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2401 <p>so it seems to me that it costs more to get out from CA than to get in there! :) i see some politics here:))</p> so it seems to me that it costs more to get out from CA than to get in there! :) i see some politics here:))

]]> By: Turbodawg http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2400 Turbodawg Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:51:03 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2400 <p>Renting trucks is like buying an airline ticket. I used to work for Penske and it is the same thing. Uhaul is crap BTW. Check out the Penske rates from the NE to FLA. Very high. Cheap out of FLA. Everyone wants to move from the NE to FLA. It is basic supply and demand. Rates in May and June are high becuase everyone wants to move then. If you rent a local truck at the end of the month you will pay a lot more than during the middle of the month or week day. Again, supply and demand.</p> Renting trucks is like buying an airline ticket. I used to work for Penske and it is the same thing. Uhaul is crap BTW. Check out the Penske rates from the NE to FLA. Very high. Cheap out of FLA. Everyone wants to move from the NE to FLA. It is basic supply and demand. Rates in May and June are high becuase everyone wants to move then. If you rent a local truck at the end of the month you will pay a lot more than during the middle of the month or week day. Again, supply and demand.

]]> By: Glen Raphael http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2399 Glen Raphael Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:43:22 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2399 <p>Are you sure it can't it be a good thing? Why not? If one group of people think they can improve their quality of life by moving from California to Utah and another group think they can improve their quality of life by moving from Mexico to California, why isn't it good to let them do that? I can't think of a reason to believe the moves won't leave both them and us better off on net.</p> Are you sure it can’t it be a good thing? Why not? If one group of people think they can improve their quality of life by moving from California to Utah and another group think they can improve their quality of life by moving from Mexico to California, why isn’t it good to let them do that? I can’t think of a reason to believe the moves won’t leave both them and us better off on net.

]]> By: Teri Pittman http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2398 Teri Pittman Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:44:12 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2398 <p>I saw the same thing when we left CA in the early 70s. And, since I do phone support, I talk to a number of folks who admit to having left the state recently. It's too expensive and in some areas, too dangerous.</p> I saw the same thing when we left CA in the early 70s. And, since I do phone support, I talk to a number of folks who admit to having left the state recently. It’s too expensive and in some areas, too dangerous.

]]> By: Paul http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2397 Paul Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:13:58 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2397 <p>"Frequent readers of my blog know I am a big supporter of open immigration, but it cannot be a good thing to send a quarter of a million of your best educated and most productive people out every year and backfill them with lower-skilled, under-educated immigrants."</p> <p>Keep in mind this is not a function of open borders, but a function of tax rates. If tax rates are lower, those who pay taxes are less likely to leave. </p> <p>Further, it could very well be a good thing to replace high skilled high wage workers with low skilled low wage workers. It's just not good for government coffers. </p> “Frequent readers of my blog know I am a big supporter of open immigration, but it cannot be a good thing to send a quarter of a million of your best educated and most productive people out every year and backfill them with lower-skilled, under-educated immigrants.”

Keep in mind this is not a function of open borders, but a function of tax rates. If tax rates are lower, those who pay taxes are less likely to leave.

Further, it could very well be a good thing to replace high skilled high wage workers with low skilled low wage workers. It’s just not good for government coffers.

]]> By: Dan Lyke http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2396 Dan Lyke Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:29:35 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2396 <p>In 1995 I moved from Chattanooga Tennessee to the San Francisco Bay Area. If I remember right, at that time there was a similar imbalance in prices, I think it cost us less than a thousand to rent the truck out here, and would have cost us over two to go the other way. In the meantime, the population here has soared.</p> <p>So there's something else at work.<br /> </p> In 1995 I moved from Chattanooga Tennessee to the San Francisco Bay Area. If I remember right, at that time there was a similar imbalance in prices, I think it cost us less than a thousand to rent the truck out here, and would have cost us over two to go the other way. In the meantime, the population here has soared.

So there’s something else at work.

]]> By: nick http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2395 nick Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:57:10 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2395 <p>I picked southern california to dallas, texas, and ended up with $1980 to dallas, and $425 from dallas.</p> <p>To compare in a city relatively the same cost of living index according to infoplease, it costs $1,559 from Chicago to here and $2,303 from here to Chicago to rent a u-haul.</p> I picked southern california to dallas, texas, and ended up with $1980 to dallas, and $425 from dallas.

To compare in a city relatively the same cost of living index according to infoplease, it costs $1,559 from Chicago to here and $2,303 from here to Chicago to rent a u-haul.

]]> By: Silentclaw http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2394 Silentclaw Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:05:46 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2394 <p>I would suggest that some of this may be the higher cost of operating in LA; the cost of living there is quite high, as is the cost of land to run a Uhaul store on. Because the cost of living is high, the people moving could also have more money to spend, especially if they just sold a house in LA and are buying in Idaho.</p> <p>Part of what's going on here may also be people moving away from an overpriced portion of the country, and moving to places where they can afford to live. Most of California is expensive enough that people will be inclined to move elsewhere, especially for retirement</p> I would suggest that some of this may be the higher cost of operating in LA; the cost of living there is quite high, as is the cost of land to run a Uhaul store on. Because the cost of living is high, the people moving could also have more money to spend, especially if they just sold a house in LA and are buying in Idaho.

Part of what’s going on here may also be people moving away from an overpriced portion of the country, and moving to places where they can afford to live. Most of California is expensive enough that people will be inclined to move elsewhere, especially for retirement

]]> By: Dave Schuler http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html/comment-page-1#comment-2393 Dave Schuler Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:04:11 +0000 http://coyote-blog.com/wordpress/2006/02/uhaul_indicator.html#comment-2393 <p>Unwillingness to manage immigration paired with unwillingness to live with “lower-skilled under-educated immigrants” is cognitive dissonance.</p> Unwillingness to manage immigration paired with unwillingness to live with “lower-skilled under-educated immigrants” is cognitive dissonance.

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