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		<title>By: nanny_govt_sucks</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know who posted as &quot;Nanny_govt_sucks&quot; above, but it wasn&#039;t me.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: 1The Damned</title>
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		<dc:creator>1The Damned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Program on the emergence of civilization. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. &quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Favor. &lt;br /&gt;
And disfavor. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They point out Africansâ€™ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it&#039;s applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The roots of racism are not of this earth. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The North American continent had none.  Now 99% of that population is gone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AIDS in Africa.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Organizational Heirarchy&lt;br /&gt;
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. MUCK - perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as &quot;god&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management &lt;br /&gt;
3. Evil/disfavored aliens - runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Terrestrial management: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4. Chinese/egyptians - this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds &lt;br /&gt;
5. Romans - they answer to the egyptians &lt;br /&gt;
6. Mafia - the real-world interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality &lt;br /&gt;
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician - Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Movies foreshadowing catastrophy&lt;br /&gt;
1985 James Bond View to a Kill  1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many Muslims are being used like the Germans and Japanese of WWII::being used to hurt others and envoke condemnation upon their people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wish I could find a source to educate many Muslim fundamentalists.  Muhammad is alive.  He is a man chosen like Jesus Christ and, due to his historical status, will live forever.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They can affect the weather and Hurricane Katrina was accomplished for many reasons and involves many interests, as anything this historical is::&lt;br /&gt;
1. Take heat off Sheenhan/Iraq, protecting profitable war machine/private war contracts&lt;br /&gt;
2. Gentrification.  New Orleans median home price of $84k is among the lowest in major American cities, certainly among desirable cities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying &quot;He has more money than god.&quot; There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says &quot;I&#039;m too old and rich for this.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
god is evil because of money.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But they have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won&#039;t help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, market domination being one clue, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I offer an example of historical proportions:::&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
People point to Walmart and cry &quot;anti-union&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family&#039;s problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unions serve to empower.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people&#039;s belief that Walmart is evil (disfavored).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The middle class is being deceived.  They are being misled into the disfavored, and will receive nothing in return.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects.  Italy sent its criminals. Malcontents.&lt;br /&gt;
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they &quot;decided&quot; who they didn&#039;t want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.&lt;br /&gt;
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects.  As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren&#039;t their real names.  I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus Christ is a religious figure of evil.  These seperatist churches formed so they could still capture the rest of the white people,  keeping them worshipping the wrong god.&lt;br /&gt;
And now they do it to people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Since Buddism doesn&#039;t recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Chinese representation is instead selected by the thrones.&lt;br /&gt;
It was set up this way.  Perhaps dyanstic thrones had a say, but maybe not.&lt;br /&gt;
Budda was the Asian&#039;s Jesus Christ::: bad for the people.  &quot;They came up at the same time for a reason.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Simpson&#039;s foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. &quot;Last one you ever suspect.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;You&#039;ll see lots of nuns where you&#039;re going:::hell!!!&quot;  St. Wigham, Helloween VI, missionary work, destroying cultures.&lt;br /&gt;
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Jews maim the body formed in the image of &quot;god&quot;, and inflicted circumsision upon all other white people.  I believe Islam is the one true religion, and those misled christians who attack &quot;god&#039;s&quot; most favored people will pay for it dearly one day.&lt;br /&gt;
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Program on the emergence of civilization. </p>
<p>&#8220;14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind. <br />
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.<br />
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. &#8221; <br />
Favor. <br />
And disfavor. </p>
<p>They point out Africansâ€™ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it&#8217;s applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization. </p>
<p>The roots of racism are not of this earth. </p>
<p>Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.</p>
<p>
The North American continent had none.  Now 99% of that population is gone.</p>
<p>AIDS in Africa.</p>
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<p>
Organizational Heirarchy<br />
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom: </p>
<p>1. MUCK &#8211; perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as &#8220;god&#8221; <br />
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management <br />
3. Evil/disfavored aliens &#8211; runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere</p>
<p>Terrestrial management: </p>
<p>4. Chinese/egyptians &#8211; this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds <br />
5. Romans &#8211; they answer to the egyptians <br />
6. Mafia &#8211; the real-world interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality <br />
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician &#8211; Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups. </p>
</p>
<p>Movies foreshadowing catastrophy<br />
1985 James Bond View to a Kill  1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.</p>
</p>
<p>Many Muslims are being used like the Germans and Japanese of WWII::being used to hurt others and envoke condemnation upon their people.</p>
<p>I wish I could find a source to educate many Muslim fundamentalists.  Muhammad is alive.  He is a man chosen like Jesus Christ and, due to his historical status, will live forever.</p>
</p>
<p>They can affect the weather and Hurricane Katrina was accomplished for many reasons and involves many interests, as anything this historical is::<br />
1. Take heat off Sheenhan/Iraq, protecting profitable war machine/private war contracts<br />
2. Gentrification.  New Orleans median home price of $84k is among the lowest in major American cities, certainly among desirable cities.</p>
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<p>
Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying &#8220;He has more money than god.&#8221; There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says &#8220;I&#8217;m too old and rich for this.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.<br />
god is evil because of money.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe. </p>
<p>
But they have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won&#8217;t help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help me.</p>
<p>The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, market domination being one clue, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial. </p>
<p>I offer an example of historical proportions:::</p>
<p>
People point to Walmart and cry &#8220;anti-union&#8221;.</p>
<p>Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family&#8217;s problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority. </p>
<p>Unions serve to empower.</p>
<p>Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems.</p>
<p>Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people&#8217;s belief that Walmart is evil (disfavored).
</p>
<p>The middle class is being deceived.  They are being misled into the disfavored, and will receive nothing in return.</p>
</p>
<p>
Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects.  Italy sent its criminals. Malcontents.<br />
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they &#8220;decided&#8221; who they didn&#8217;t want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.<br />
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects.  As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren&#8217;t their real names.  I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.</p>
<p>
Jesus Christ is a religious figure of evil.  These seperatist churches formed so they could still capture the rest of the white people,  keeping them worshipping the wrong god.<br />
And now they do it to people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.  </p>
<p>
Since Buddism doesn&#8217;t recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Chinese representation is instead selected by the thrones.<br />
It was set up this way.  Perhaps dyanstic thrones had a say, but maybe not.<br />
Budda was the Asian&#8217;s Jesus Christ::: bad for the people.  &#8220;They came up at the same time for a reason.&#8221;</p>
</p>
<p>Simpson&#8217;s foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. &#8220;Last one you ever suspect.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You&#8217;ll see lots of nuns where you&#8217;re going:::hell!!!&#8221;  St. Wigham, Helloween VI, missionary work, destroying cultures.<br />
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.</p>
<p>
Jews maim the body formed in the image of &#8220;god&#8221;, and inflicted circumsision upon all other white people.  I believe Islam is the one true religion, and those misled christians who attack &#8220;god&#8217;s&#8221; most favored people will pay for it dearly one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Want proof that the tree huggers are anti-american.  Take a trip to the third world and see how much stuff they burn.  Coal furnaces for each house, poorly maintained diesel engines spewing black smoke and industries that belch more toxins in one day than our EPA allows in a month or more.  Filthy air that fills your lungs with black goo and days where the sun cant be seen from the crap in the sky are common in many parts of the world.  But the big problem is the industrialized USA.  Yup.  That makes sense.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you bring this up to the tree huggers they first decry you as a heretic who dares to chalange their divine wisdom and then try and justify it by saying we produce more CO2 than they do and the black gunk they dump into the air isnt relevant.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Arguing with tree huggers is like masturbating with a cheese grater.  Slightly entertaining but mostly painful.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want proof that the tree huggers are anti-american.  Take a trip to the third world and see how much stuff they burn.  Coal furnaces for each house, poorly maintained diesel engines spewing black smoke and industries that belch more toxins in one day than our EPA allows in a month or more.  Filthy air that fills your lungs with black goo and days where the sun cant be seen from the crap in the sky are common in many parts of the world.  But the big problem is the industrialized USA.  Yup.  That makes sense.  </p>
<p>When you bring this up to the tree huggers they first decry you as a heretic who dares to chalange their divine wisdom and then try and justify it by saying we produce more CO2 than they do and the black gunk they dump into the air isnt relevant.  </p>
<p>Arguing with tree huggers is like masturbating with a cheese grater.  Slightly entertaining but mostly painful.</p>
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		<title>By: Nanny_govt_sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nanny_govt_sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 03:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The CO2 absorption band in the atmosphere is, for the most part, full. Additional CO2 will add very little to the total infrared absorption ability of the atmosphere.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>The CO2 absorption band in the atmosphere is, for the most part, full. Additional CO2 will add very little to the total infrared absorption ability of the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Much of your analysis raises valid points -- though, as you point our, nothing can really be concluded at the moment about how bad global warming is going to be. I&#039;d tend to believe somewhat worse than your opinion is, but it is hard to judge at the moment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, I cannot agree with the assessment that the treaty is anti-US, at all. You mention carbon sinks, 1990 targets, and developing world exemptions. On the first, you are just wrong -- carbon sinks are indeed allowed in the version of the treaty that came into force. See, for example, this article at the US&#039;s NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4501157. Secondly, Kyoto was originally negotiated in 1997 -- which makes the 1990 targets much more reasonable. That was before the long period of US growth and global slowdown starting in 1998. Lastly, can you really claim that entrenching the current economic divides is a moral course of action? The US produces about 25% of the worlds CO2, with about 5% of the world&#039;s population. I can see no way of justifying emission restrictions based on the current hugely-unequal status quo levels.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of your analysis raises valid points &#8212; though, as you point our, nothing can really be concluded at the moment about how bad global warming is going to be. I&#8217;d tend to believe somewhat worse than your opinion is, but it is hard to judge at the moment.</p>
<p>However, I cannot agree with the assessment that the treaty is anti-US, at all. You mention carbon sinks, 1990 targets, and developing world exemptions. On the first, you are just wrong &#8212; carbon sinks are indeed allowed in the version of the treaty that came into force. See, for example, this article at the US&#8217;s NPR: <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4501157" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4501157</a>. Secondly, Kyoto was originally negotiated in 1997 &#8212; which makes the 1990 targets much more reasonable. That was before the long period of US growth and global slowdown starting in 1998. Lastly, can you really claim that entrenching the current economic divides is a moral course of action? The US produces about 25% of the worlds CO2, with about 5% of the world&#8217;s population. I can see no way of justifying emission restrictions based on the current hugely-unequal status quo levels.</p>
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		<title>By: coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard- &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, I have.  CO2 levels have gone up something like 30-40 ppm at Hilo in the last several decades, if I remember the numbers correctly.  Didn&#039;t mention it because I don&#039;t deny that CO2 and manmade CO2 are increasing.  &lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Yes, I have.  CO2 levels have gone up something like 30-40 ppm at Hilo in the last several decades, if I remember the numbers correctly.  Didn&#8217;t mention it because I don&#8217;t deny that CO2 and manmade CO2 are increasing.  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Foy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Foy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have you seen any of the CO2 data from the Hilo station?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Richard&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Richard</p>
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